Endlessness and gammagore  really  appreciate for your warm welcome,have probably read most of your postings and hold you both in the highest regard,also cheers Ident,this place does seem a bit special,testament to the power of the spice I'd say.

And thanks for your encouragement to contribute,like I said I've a lot of ideas,and some of will maybe deemed to be a bit out there,but there only ideas,as is everything and once you enter this game it seems,the philosophical gloves come off some what.

   Thanks again, SG.