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SWIM never worked with those leaves but simmering would be better and for about an hour per extraction.


Also cut the leaves. Also use acid in each water solution.


As far as pH goes it depends what concentration acid or lye solution one is using and what pH one wants. But if you know those concentrations you can do some math and calculate the pH. Instructions would be in any general chemistry text book. They even have online calculators for such calculations.


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