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help identifying Phalaris arundinacea

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Dimitrius

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Is this Phalaris arundinacea? There's LOADS of it nearby.


If there's any specific features needed for identification, I can go take pictures of them. 😉
 

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Anyone have any information on this.

If this is in fact, Phalaris arundinacea, which I understand to contain gramine?, I can experiment with extractions (when time allows) to see if I can get a worthwhile extract. I'm no chemist or anything, but with some free time and a large source, who knows...maybe some progress or insights could be made.

Let me know. Not too worried about it, as far as having a supply, but you know...curiousness. If I could help in the advancement of grass extractions, in any way, well, I'd be happy.
 
Dude check out this page, the pics on there look quite a bit different, are you sure thats reed canary grass?
Phalaris Pictures - Erowid
phalarais_arundinacea__i2005e0141_disp.jpg

phalaris_arundinacea7.jpg

phalaris_arundinacea8.jpg


Either way, its a shitty source, ur better of growing some specific p.aquatica or ideally p.brachy strains. You'll only be looking at 0.06% yield, so u'll need a lot of plant matter.
Make sure you harvest just before sunrise or just after sunset, thats when the alk content of the plant is at its peak. If you harvest at the wrong time u'll just be flogging a dead horse.
Also make sure you dig up the rhizomes, try do a separate extraction on them, dry them and bash them to bits, then do an A/B i hear they have much higher alk concentrations - would be interesting to see.

Good luck,
 
Thanks D_Juggz.

D_Juggz said:
Dude check out this page, the pics on there look quite a bit different, are you sure thats reed canary grass?

No, lol, I'm not sure. That's what this thread is about. :p

Actually, the pictures you show and the pictures that a google search turns up, do look very similar to what I'm seeing along the river bank. My thinking was that perhaps the ones near me weren't in as full a bloom, as say...

THESE

or

THESE

...because it's not that time of year for them here? And that they may not ever bloom so fully here in my region, as they might somewhere else, in a more optimal conditions??

I don't know. I'm not a botanist by any means.

D_Juggs said:
Either way, its a shitty source, ur better of growing some specific p.aquatica or ideally p.brachy strains. You'll only be looking at 0.06% yield, so u'll need a lot of plant matter.
Make sure you harvest just before sunrise or just after sunset, thats when the alk content of the plant is at its peak. If you harvest at the wrong time u'll just be flogging a dead horse.
Also make sure you dig up the rhizomes, try do a separate extraction on them, dry them and bash them to bits, then do an A/B i hear they have much higher alk concentrations - would be interesting to see.

Good luck,

I'm not sure I will pursue this. I do have PLENTY of pink powder. It's just interesting to me is all. Maybe I should leave it at that, an interesting occurrence, and not pursue extraction of this potential source. That's really how I felt about it in the first place...but you know, the mind gets going!

I appreciate the help Juggz.
 
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