Help me decide on DMT usage

[thirdeyeshaman]

Like I said in my introduction post I finally managed to find some freebase DMT and I'm thinking seriously if I should give it a shot or not.

I first heard of DMT and DMT-Nexus about 4 years ago, and came up with the conclusion that entheogens and things of nature is a way to reach your enlightenment, but only for the very few people. I did some research on entheogens and I always thought DMT is the mother of all and something about this always is bringing me to do it.

I'm not very experienced with psychedelics, only tried 5 times acid before and I tripped only 3 times on them. I'm a guy who likes to expand his perception of reality, been into mysticism/meditation and things about your self for a few years now and I'm always open minded, even though I have to admit I'm being anxious sometimes and this is the reason I decided to stop smoking weed last year.

Now that I managed to find DMT I'm very excited and I think if I should try or not. I read the pinned topic on this section where they conversate about why you should NOT try DMT (Why you should NOT take DMT - First steps in Hyperspace - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus) and that made me a little worried about it. I know there are going to be some things that you gonna carry with you your whole life (don't know if it's necessary to say I'm 24 now), but I'm very curious to see what this thing is really about. I heard a little abour breakthroughs and things like that, basically that's the thing I wanna see by myself but I know it's for larger doses (about 50mg if I'm correct). I'm thinking to try about 20-25mg for my first time, all by myself with just one sitter with me in case anything goes wrong. I'm thinking to try The Machine Method because it's cheap to make and I don't have any money right now, even though I couldn't find a how to picture guide. If anyone can send me a guide that would be helpful. Now on the other side I have to make sure that I'm ready to give a shot because being anxious sometimes I know doesn't help, especially with things like that, so before I read this topic by vovin I thought to myself that I might find an answer why I'm being anxious sometimes and things like that, but I saw warnings of more experienced users who're saying that you should not smoke it if you want to find some answers but it's basically going to open new dimensions and length your distance of thoughts and make new questions and not find answers.

Any help/food for thought/suggestion is much appreciated.

 

[Infectedstyle]

Never tried the machine. Another cheap method is to get a cheap torch ligher and sandwiching it in herbs. It's hard to get the ratio's right though. It takes a bit of practice. Expect to put aside a few attempts getting to know the ratios and learning a smoking method that works.

Sure dmt raises new questions but that is only because it answered some. IME it can help with anxiety. But probably not in the way you envision it. For me it helped me control my breathe and internal energy. There's a whole can of mysticism in the DMT experience. At some point the curiosity will outweigh the fear.

Forget about enlightenment and all that crap. It will take years of meditation to get there. Psychedelics do not provide a shortcut. It adds an additional set of experiences outside normal reality. This can aid on the path to enlightenment. And can help to know oneself better. It still takes work though and intergration.

I suggest doing ur own extraction. That way you will have more to spend and work with.

 

[thirdeyeshaman]

Torch lighter and sandwich it in herbs? Does that mean I can roll a blunt with tobacco and weed and put some dmt in the mid of the blunt (so it doesn't light the spice directly)?

I heard that it goes straight to/activates your pineal gland aka third eye, and basically that's the substance every human being has but have to work with breathing and meditation techniques so it activates it. That's what you mean by it will take years to go there?

I'm so comfused with extraction etc that I don't even know where to start from. Don't know which things contain dmt and I don't think I have any equipment/experience to do it.

 

[Infectedstyle]

Check out Cyb's max ion tek. It is very comprehensive and works for MHRB and ACRB. Although it might be tricky at first to get pure crystals using ACRB, i don't know. I'm not good at extractions. It looks like a daunting task at first but the process is actually really simple.

Forgot to say the sandwich method works best in a bong. Preferably with a large smoking chamber. You can even just put dmt on top of some herbs (Weed, or something like Mullein if you prefer not to use psychoactive herbs). If you use a torch lighter you can control the flame so it does not directly touch the dmt. When it melts unto the herbs you can smoke it without burning it. Just inhale so the smoke chamber gets filled with smoke. Then inhale all of it in one hit. Then just hold it like it's good weed

Using a joint kind of sucks. I heard changa joints can be pretty cool though. As for Pineal gland activation.. Dunno about that. Melatonin is synthesized in the Pineal gland which is actually a distanced cousin of DMT but i'm not sure about any DMT mechanism in the Pineal gland. However, dmt certainly activates imagination and probably some visual systems in the brain (duhh!). You can train yourself to activate similar systems in your brain which dmt activates, yea. This still does not grant enlightenment AFAIK.

Basically, doing dmt will not kill you. I think the only way to know if it can be a helpful tool for you is to just try it out.

 

[User1911]

no blunts, its best vaporized.


Everyone gets anxious smoking DMT. Its completly normal, however you should inform yourself of what to expect while smoking at low-medium-high doses before hand.

At low doses:

-Visual perception changes: An increased sense of clarity, as if your vision has been
upgraded, everything may seem crisper, and clearer.

The room and objects in it will take on a breathing, morphing
effect. Carpets, curtains, swirls in the paint on your wall, will
seem to float, swirl, and breath, moving up and down in and out.

An increased feeling of awarness, can be described as your field
energy, your aura has expanded.

Minor closed eyed visuals, geometric shapes that morph, may even hear music/tones.

-At Medium Doses:


All of the above, open eyed visuals become more intense,
as do closed eye visuals, a sense of your spirit being pulled
or guided may come into play. Closed eyed visuals may form
more intricate designs, faces of beings may be seen, things
may shift from mere geometrics to more of a room design. Every
trip is different. Deeper music can be heard within the trip.
You'll drift away at this point.

-At High Doses:

All of the above, you will bypass the geometric shapes
entirely be processed thru space and reassembled into
places that can not be described, expierence things that
there are no words for. You wont even know what happened
the DMT places you back in this reality. You will come back
feeling completely refreshed. Like your soul was brushed off
and reinserted back to the place of origin.


Often times, you will come back overwhelmed, ease back into your body by simply taking a few deep breathes, and gently re awaken. You may or may not even shed a tear because you what you just expierenced was utter beauty. Take what the spice shows you and watch. Nothing more nothing less. Dont try to ask questions, it doesnt work like that. Just observe. If you find yourself being offered gifts, you do not need to accept them but if you do a simple thank you will suffice.

I broke threw one time and these beings of light made me some sort of drink and poured it into my ear. I drank it down my brain and said thank you, that thank you echoed thruout my room. It was one of the most incredible things I have ever expierenced.

It is ment to be expierenced with closed eyes, as keeping your eyes open as a new traveler you will almost certainly become shocked. So you will need to get 1 large toke in or 2 , 3 if you want to go in deep, relax and close your eyes.

Noone can say do it or not, that is up to you. But just take this, the things you will see, expierence will say you for a long time. Your travels will become a staple in your brain. You can not and will not be able to just shrug it off.

Good luck to you and your decision.
-Best to do it in low light, in bed, alone in silence. Ask your tripper to stay in a close room. You'll be overwhelmed, anxious and maybe even scared but you will be just fine.

 

[The Traveler]

If you 'found' the DMT then I advise you to not take DMT for now and certainly not that 'DMT'.

Read on this site how you can safely extract your own DMT so you definitely know what you have. If you hit hyperspace and the initial fear slips in, having to worry about possible bad stuff in your 'DMT' is something you can certainly do without.


Kind regards,

The Traveler

 

[thirdeyeshaman]

Thanks everyone for their replies.

Somehow I know the source I got the DMT from is a trusted one.
Seems like extraction of DMT is something that is being suggested to everyone here. I found a how to tutorial (Cybs' Hybrid ATB 'Salt' Tek - DMT-Nexus Wiki), I wonder if that's for smoking DMT or other usage.

And here I found a really simple and cheap guide to make something like the machine.. do y'all approve it? "The (mini) Machine" Step by Step Guide - DMT-Nexus Wiki

 

[Parabola89]

I think that by now you probably have a good idea in your mind as to whether you're going to go through with this or not and most things we say will have no bearing on that, that's a good thing too, don't go into this half heartedly, if it's really something that you want to experience then put yourself fully into it.

DMT is a substance that is entirely different from every other I have ever tried, instead of just peeling off a few layers like Psilocybin or LSD, it peels them all off without mercy. It still won't give you any answers just by experiencing it, however it may give you a few more dots to bring the pattern together.

Enlightenment is a word that brings on a lot of imagery in western culture, a lot of times people will think of buddha sat under a tree meditating but that imagery is about as useful to the concept of being enlightened as the imagery of Isaac Newton being hit on the head with an apple is to the concept of gravity. The way of realisation is not too important in my opinion, there are many ways of realisation but there is only one realisation, when you get there you will know and you will laugh

Good luck with everything and of course feel free to ask any questions, i'll try to help out :thumb_up:

 

[The Traveler]

Somehow I know the source I got the DMT from is a trusted one.

:?: Will they never learn?

If you decide to come back after your suspension expires I expect from you that you have read our attitude page and really understand why we have those rules in place. It is to make sure we can keep this place that you are now using for your source of information.

I really hoped that you would not be so mindless about this...


The Traveler