Herbs and supplements compatible with breakthrough

[Pharmacognosis]

I was wondering if any of you have been able to add any anxiolytic/panic reducing herbs to your blends, or predosing with substances to mitigate fear without smothering visuals and clarity by GABA activation. On bluelight people have mentioned drugs like ondansetron for nausea, beta blockers for panic, etc. I think it would be helpful to have a few assistant supplements to aid exit and re-entry into your body and to facilitate a smooth experience.

Has anyone tried this? When I was being pulled out of my body by pseudo-transparent futuristic astronauts type entities by foot started shaking convulsively, like that part of my etheric body wouldn't part with the physical. The helmetted astronauts sprayed something out of an aerosol can (reminded me of PKD's Ubik) to loosen that part of my body. This experience caused a negative thought spiral that I was defective spiritually and the trip went bad, I took benzos and aborted. Before I freaked out I saw chemistry diagrams in my mind kinda, and one of them was Ca for calcium. The next day I looked calcium up and it is a dampener of excess electrical activity, as is magnesium, so that "prescription" would make sense concerning the severe twitching of myfoot and lower leg.

Off the top of my head I'd say lemon oil would be good for nausea, calcium (dunno about magnesium haven't tried yet), hypotensive herbs? The body level panic and shock of being vibrated and thrown elsewhere would be nice to eleviate, I think some people use NMDA antagonists to numb the body and mind to make the transition easier. Any traditional GABAergic antianxiety would be at crosspurposes to achieving a transcendental state. But at the same time panic and shock doesn't help things either.

 

[Entheogenerator]

Are you referring to experiences with ayahuasca or changa or DMT freebase?

When I first was introduced to DMT, I tried everything from low-dose benzodiazepines/thienodiazepines to alcohol to opiates to muscle relaxers, and they all dulled the experience significantly to the point that there was hardly any substance left to it. I really wouldn't recommend any of the synthetic/pharmaceutical routes that I tried to calm my nerves before smoking DMT freebase.

I have never experienced nausea from DMT freebase, but with other substances I usually predose ~1000mg ginger root (typically in the form of powder in capsules, but whatever you prefer), and it has helped tremendously with nausea. It doesn't always completely cure nausea, but it usually reduces it quite a bit. As far as anxiety goes: adding a bit of skullcap, passionflower, blue lotus, valerian root extract, or kava root extract to a nice changa or enhanced leaf blend might take the edge off the nervousness.

 

[DreaMTripper]

Blue lotus for sure is a great subtle calming influence I wouldnt travel without it. Passionflower too especially in a tea.
A small ammount of indica cannabis too makes the transition less extreme and much smoother. Blue lotus flowers and a small amount of cannabis in a bong/pipe 10 minutes before blast off is my preferred preparation.
Ive used betablockers (propranolol) due to being on them as a prescription and it does take away any racing heart or physical anxiety during the onset because its an adrenergic antagonist but it also caused a great deal of discomfort that in seconds was overcome by the processes set in motion by the DMT.

 

[Pharmacognosis]

Thank you for the suggestions, I'll try blue lotus in my next changa mix. The valerian/kava/skullcap additives still agonise GABA, which would still blunt the experience, unless you have found that is not the case. The etiz/betablocker/alcohol combo data is very useful to me, it seems barely anything doesn't detract from the experience. MJ gives me dream recall issues so I avoid it with changa, also I have thought loop issues from it now from crosslinked unpleasant salvia and 'noid experiences. It seems entities hugely dislike me messing with my GABA levels while tripping, I've been almost forced to spit out gelcaps of phenibut before like my body was pseudo-possessed, like the drug is conscious and sharing my body and disapproving of my choices.

Antispasmodics like cramp bark, black haw, hawthorne berry are another category I want to try in combination. Another route I want to explore is taking Mangosteen fruit or extract directly after coming back from the other side, as it is a rather potent 5ht-2a antagonist and maybe it would make the restabilization phase directly after re-entry faster and smoother. Sometimes I have to sit for 5 to 10 minutes putting myself back together afterwards till I feel solid and stable again.

Oh regarding ginger for nausea, I've started using lemon oil in gelcaps as a replacement, and it seems to work better for the purpose. Thats the most useful tip I pulled from that nexus ex-pat oilhuasca forum, most other infos were placebo rubbish. Its also strong enough to be cost effective, 5 or so drops do the trick.

 

[Entheogenerator]

After all of the herbs, supplements, and chemicals I have tried adding in order to alter the experience, I have come to the conclusion that nature knows better than I do and that the DMT experience is fine on its own. This is only my opinion of course, others may disagree. But after trying many times to combat the anxiety that often accompanies DMT, I have realized that for me it is just part of the experience that has actually turned out to be beneficial in some ways.

But, like I said, this is only my opinion and experience. You may very well find that your DMT journeys are more beneficial or significant when combined with some sort of herb or supplement.