hi everyone

[ancientwarrior333]

hi everyone,

i'm ancientwarrior and i have been reading these forums, on and off, for several months.

i'm really excited to be here, i would love to help expand this forum through meaningful contribution (posts).

so i decided to join the forum.

i will be partaking soon, but just the other day i read something about how it is not good to openly (at least, immediately after the experience) share what one has undergone after partaking of the spirit molecule.

but what if i have fantastic and incomprehensible experiences, that i *know* i must share with others? what to do?

i've never really partaken of spirit molecule, and as i think of it i feel a mixture of apprehension and excitement simultaneously.

i'm glad to be here, and can't wait to hear back from others.

thanks!

 

[ancientwarrior333]

I really hope that i find kindred spirits on this forum whom i will be able to communicate with.

i believe that i've been lead here for a reason, and i truly hope i will find what i am seeking!

 

[humble bumble]

hi everyone,
i will be partaking soon, but just the other day i read something about how it is not good to openly (at least, immediately after the experience) share what one has undergone after partaking of the spirit molecule.

but what if i have fantastic and incomprehensible experiences, that i *know* i must share with others? what to do?

Hi Ancientwarrior,

I think it's best not to go into it with too many expectations or fixed ideas. Whatever will happen to you will probably defy all of them anyway

If anything, I think talking about your experiences afterwards can be good for integration- but everyone's different that way. You'll have to find out what works for you. Godspeed on your travels!

 

[ancientwarrior333]

thanks for the feedback! i really needed some support in this.

 

[ancientwarrior333]

humble bumble,
do you prefer changa or crystal?
i will be starting off using changa, but maybe i shouldn't? Maybe i should use crystal instead?
i just don't know! i just want to feel the healing/expansion of consciousness that the spirit of this medicine has to offer...

 

[Just Say Know]

Welcome to the forum; you sound very excited! hope that you achieve what you're looking for.

 

[humble bumble]

Hi Ancientwarrior,

When it comes to freebase vs. changa, I don't value either higher than the other, they both have their merits.

When I first started extracting and smoking, I started with crystals but it made mastering the technique of vaping very much part of the proces. I bought a vapor genie and I made a Machine and I learned how to vape, and I had some wonderful experiences, and a nasty one too but that one was also wonderful, and I remember that time that I sat down in the garden one morning, meditated, vaped 25 mgs of spice in a couple of tokes, held it in as long as I could- and absolutely nothing happened. Freebase spice can be weird that way.

Later I took up a habit of going to a nature reservation to hike around and find nice spots in the wild, where I would smoke changa from a small hashpipe. Changa was convenient for that: I mainly wanted to see nature through the eyes of the experience, not breakthrough, and changa allows you to regulate the depth of your experience more easily than does freebase. You can still breakthrough though, and hot spots in your changa can really suprise you

I read in the other thread you're gonna go with changa but I don't believe I saw you mention adding harmalas. Comes time, you could look into that, I believe it adds to the experience in terms of healing. Again good luck! And keep us informed but that goes without saying.

 

[ancientwarrior333]

i guess i should mention this here since it is my introduction essay, but i misused ayahuasca in a really bad way in the past, i feel like i disrespected the spirit of ayahuasca which was working to try and heal my heart and save my life.

now i think i upset and angered the spirit of ayahuasca which no longer wants to help me anymore, that is, i feel like She no longer wants to help me. People have said to me in the past, "once you get the message, hang up the phone" or something like that.

i feel bad for doing that, i felt that my salvation depended on whether or not i succeeded in my ayahuasca ceremonies, but i failed. Horribly. With EVERYTHING at stake, too, including my soul, especially my soul.



so now i don't know if the spirit of changa will even want to help me anymore, or whether it CAN help me. I just don't know. I've just become stagnant (not going anywhere) and not making any progress at all. But i haven't tried, and one of my dear spiritual guides said its not too late and that i should continue on the path.

 

[ancientwarrior333]

hi, does anyone have any positive feedback?

anything to lift my spirits at all in regards to this?

any and all input is greatly appreciated, thanks

 

[3rdI]

morning ancientwarrior333,

from reading your posts so far it seems you are after replies to reafirm the action you want to take, it seems like you want someone to tell you that, "yes, you can smoke a bowl of DMT and your soul will be cleansed and your life will be rosy and without worry".

Looking at drugs to fix your problems isnt good, you have to sort your problems. I can forsee you having a good experience and all will be rosy in the after glow, but that fades and you are left in the same place with a new realisation that its all on your shoulders and not even DMT can help. It seems like you are putting way to much hope into the experience fixing your problems, when it doesnt where will that leave you? it leaves you in the same place your in now but with nothing left to help you.

can DMT help people and push them down a path of self improvement?
yes it can.

can DMT screw you up, dissolve rationality and put you in a bad place?
yes it can.

can DMT be smoked for shits and giggles and do absolutley nothing to alter your life?
yes it can.

what actions, if any, are you currently taking to sort out your problems?

many of the questions you are asking are massively subjective and there is no way to know until you experience it, its your relationship and its gonna be have to be on your terms.

beyond safety i dont think you should listen to what anyone has to say about DMT, when i read some peoples take on the experience it honestly feels like we are taking vastly different substances.

my best advice in regards to DMT is dont listen to what anyone says it is, how to use it or where to use it, thats all on you. I would sort out one thing in your life first, even if its just a small step toward a larger goal.
lets say you have many distressing thoughts that are constantly running through your mind in an uncontrollable manner, well to address this you could start a daily meditation practice, this would not be the cure but would be a solid step forward.
You could then take this into the DMT experience knowing that your are sorting yourself out and that you have the power to do so, then just sit back and see what DMT has to say about your existence. The experience will be infinitely better if you go into it in an empowered state of mind.

sorry if this came across as harsh and it was probably to long, and maybe unwanted, but thats the joy of public forums, sometimes people dont just tell you what you want to hear, they tell you what they think you need, just like the Magic will.

 

[humble bumble]

When I was young I wanted to introduce a friend to mushrooms. We went to the nearby woods to take them and we would be meditating, contacting with nature, etc., except it became really cold real fast after dark so we took our bikes and went to a local pub where all our friends were. We had a great evening, drinking beer, not being able to speak to our friends because of the constant giggling, it was great.
But the next morning I felt guilty for not having respected the mushroom, and that guilt weighed heavily on me. I decided the best thing to do would be to take mushrooms again a couple of days later, but this time take them alone and with all the respect they deserve. I did and I had a wonderful glowing experience that I still cherish 18 years later.
So that worked out wonderfully for me.
I don't know what you did to displease the ayahuasca spirit, or how you misused aya in the past, as you said you did. Would you care to elaborate? But I think that life is about learning and there can be no learning without making mistakes. I also think that, as a mother spirit, aya may be more understanding and forgiving than you think.
If you decide to go through with your changa experiments maybe you could try to do a special asking-for-forgiveness session, where you meditate on beforehand on what you (think you) have done 'wrong', and what you want to achieve by visiting this spirit. I just mean this as a possible suggestion.


Edit: after reading the post above, I'd like to chip in and say that MY best advice would be to listen to 3rdI's

 

[ancientwarrior333]

morning ancientwarrior333,

from reading your posts so far it seems you are after replies to reafirm the action you want to take, it seems like you want someone to tell you that, "yes, you can smoke a bowl of DMT and your soul will be cleansed and your life will be rosy and without worry".

Looking at drugs to fix your problems isnt good, you have to sort your problems. I can forsee you having a good experience and all will be rosy in the after glow, but that fades and you are left in the same place with a new realisation that its all on your shoulders and not even DMT can help. It seems like you are putting way to much hope into the experience fixing your problems, when it doesnt where will that leave you? it leaves you in the same place your in now but with nothing left to help you.

can DMT help people and push them down a path of self improvement?
yes it can.

can DMT screw you up, dissolve rationality and put you in a bad place?
yes it can.

can DMT be smoked for shits and giggles and do absolutley nothing to alter your life?
yes it can.

what actions, if any, are you currently taking to sort out your problems?

many of the questions you are asking are massively subjective and there is no way to know until you experience it, its your relationship and its gonna be have to be on your terms.

beyond safety i dont think you should listen to what anyone has to say about DMT, when i read some peoples take on the experience it honestly feels like we are taking vastly different substances.

my best advice in regards to DMT is dont listen to what anyone says it is, how to use it or where to use it, thats all on you. I would sort out one thing in your life first, even if its just a small step toward a larger goal.
lets say you have many distressing thoughts that are constantly running through your mind in an uncontrollable manner, well to address this you could start a daily meditation practice, this would not be the cure but would be a solid step forward.
You could then take this into the DMT experience knowing that your are sorting yourself out and that you have the power to do so, then just sit back and see what DMT has to say about your existence. The experience will be infinitely better if you go into it in an empowered state of mind.

sorry if this came across as harsh and it was probably to long, and maybe unwanted, but thats the joy of public forums, sometimes people dont just tell you what you want to hear, they tell you what they think you need, just like the Magic will.

but 3rd EYE! You don't understand!

the REAL DMT IN THE FORM OF AYAHUASCA was SAVING MY LIFE SOUL BODY AND CONSCIOUSNESS until i made an awful and irreversible mistake which was taking marijuana during the BEGINNING of my purification and healing process! NOW i'm left stuck with all the bad vibes and energies and karmas that were being released and purified from my body, mind and spirit! I NEED TO GO BACK AND FINISH MY WORK BUT I CANNOT GO BACK TO THE PLACE I WAS SUPPOSED TO GO TO BECAUSE THEY WON"T ACCEPT ME BACK! So i'm thinking of going to a DIFFERENT place but i don't know if it will be as good, and i don't know if they can even help me for all the sin and filth i am covered in

 

[universecannon]

Why would it be some mortal sin to smoke cannabis on ayahuasca? I personally love it and it helps the nausea for me plus enhances the experience in other ways, and I'm usually not even a daily smoker. Sure, it's not for everyone, but it won't get you 'banned by ayahuasca'. I feel that you're greatly over thinking this my friend. Don't let paranoia get the best of you. It might be good to take a break from ayahuasca and psychedelics.

"the REAL DMT IN THE FORM OF AYAHUASCA was SAVING MY LIFE SOUL BODY AND CONSCIOUSNESS"

I also have to agree with what 3dI said below:

from reading your posts so far it seems you are after replies to reafirm the action you want to take, it seems like you want someone to tell you that, "yes, you can smoke a bowl of DMT and your soul will be cleansed and your life will be rosy and without worry".

Looking at drugs to fix your problems isnt good, you have to sort your problems. I can forsee you having a good experience and all will be rosy in the after glow, but that fades and you are left in the same place with a new realisation that its all on your shoulders and not even DMT can help. It seems like you are putting way to much hope into the experience fixing your problems, when it doesnt where will that leave you? it leaves you in the same place your in now but with nothing left to help you.

 

[3rdI]

OK, this is probably gonna offend some of our jungle loving members but im going with it.

the REAL DMT IN THE FORM OF AYAHUASCA

Real DMT comes out of a GVG, real Aya comes out of a cup, both are real, both are different, neithers better than the other, there just good in different situations for different people

was SAVING MY LIFE SOUL BODY AND CONSCIOUSNESS

YOU were saving your life, soul, body and consciousness, you can do this even if it feels hopeless

until i made an awful and irreversible mistake which was taking marijuana during the BEGINNING of my purification and healing process! NOW i'm left stuck with all the bad vibes and energies and karmas that were being released and purified from my body, mind and spirit!

no, just no.

I NEED TO GO BACK AND FINISH MY WORK BUT I CANNOT GO BACK TO THE PLACE I WAS SUPPOSED TO GO TO BECAUSE THEY WON"T ACCEPT ME BACK!

you can finish this work on the spot that you stand on, it just takes more courage to do it on your own, its hard to put absolute faith in yourself.

So i'm thinking of going to a DIFFERENT place but i don't know if it will be as good, and i don't know if they can even help me for all the sin and filth i am covered in

they cant help you as much as you can help you.

Screw those people in the jungle, yes they have had Aya for the longest time but ive plumbed the depths and im pretty sure they dont know what going on in there, no one does, they have just built up huge amounts of dogma, which in your case has been very detrimental.

You sinned because you smoked weed and now cant be healed, screw that, aya has no problem with me smoking weed, it pointed out maybe life would be different without it but it still helped me out and im a weed fiend.

i know lots of people are helped in the jungle, and that a glorious thing, but saying you cant be cured cos you smoked a joint, ate salt, had sex or any of the rest of that nonsence they have come up with, well bobbins to them, they can keep there jungle healing.

Get some decent vine from a reputable vendor and build you own interaction, your own ritual, your own conditions that help you. you dont need a shaman, you just need to be honest with yourself and drink.

sorry jungle fans:twisted:

 

[ancientwarrior333]

dear third eye,

THANK YOU! THAT was what i needed to hear, i think!

I REALLY WANT TO HEAL AND PURIFY AND FEEL GOOD AGAIN, AND I CAN'T REALLY MAKE IT TO THE JUNGLE!

Should i drink with admixture (equal amount of chacruna) or should i drink JUST VINE?

what do you think? which is better? i was told that the synergy between the two plants is essential, yet the ayahuasca purists over at ayahuasca.com keep saying that vine alone is what is true ayahuasca, and that chacruna is not even needed at all.

what do you think?

thank you!

 

[universecannon]

dear third eye,

THANK YOU! THAT was what i needed to hear, i think!

I REALLY WANT TO HEAL AND PURIFY AND FEEL GOOD AGAIN, AND I CAN'T REALLY MAKE IT TO THE JUNGLE!

Should i drink with admixture (equal amount of chacruna) or should i drink JUST VINE?

what do you think? which is better? i was told that the synergy between the two plants is essential, yet the ayahuasca purists over at ayahuasca.com keep saying that vine alone is what is true ayahuasca, and that chacruna is not even needed at all.

what do you think?

thank you!

Why would either or be "better"...? This kind of thing is never so black and white.

I do find vine or rue only brews to be more gentle, obviously, so they can be a nice way to ease back in after rough experiences.

 

[3rdI]

OK im bowing out after this, spoon feeding isnt encouraged here but now im invested so here goes

dont listen to what they say
starting with vine is a good bet.
dont listen to what they say
build up slowly
dont listen to what they say
create your own ritual
dont listen to what they say

now get reading, every question you have asked has been answered on the forum already, if you read the nexus for 2 hours a day at the end of the week you will have all the info you need that can be grabbed from this side of the vail about dosage, roa, safety ect.

now go empower yourself and destroy those demons, happy travels:thumb_up:

 

[ancientwarrior333]

now go empower yourself and destroy those demons, happy travels:thumb_up:

you don't understand the demons destroyed ME!

i lost my soul to demonic powers of the universe

when i was born a DEVA

i was already enlightened, a LION, and a DEVA.

i feel like i'm stuck full of swords or spears literally

drink on my own? it just doesn't work

my head is "dead" and so is my heart

should i drink a vine only brew and then smoke changa, or dmt? would that work?