Hi, Im new here.

[avidya]

So i thought Id kick-start it with my experience with psychedelics.
My first psychedelic was LsD with friends. It lasted for a long while and of course I was the one freaking. Music was slowing and speeding up, the hive mind was my every thought and action, dots... dots were spinning around in such a clandestine, remarkable way. At the very end, I was gifted with all these dots coalescing in orbit from the furniture's star center, purportedly docked within all patterns, for the eyes delight.
Not too long after, I thought I should try salvia. I had to try it twice, to verify if the experience was exclusive to that time alone, but to my dismay I had found out every experience was virtually the same thing; but sortve like a riding on the last emotion had. And thats basically a fine summary for me. The last scene you see is the experience you have with it, and anyone who's tried it knows what you mean.
So finally I had to kindve override my better judgement to try psilocybin. It started out fine... 2 or 3 hours of nothing, and the sun was starting to fall. I arrived home and it was dark. Suddenly, I thought, "did I forget something". I had this thought that I might have forgot something. I was still patiently awaiting for effects to increase, and within this 'forgetting moment' things went bonkers. Now note the time. When it was 12:00am, everything went to chaos. By the time like 6 hours went by, that clock, I kid you not, said 12:01am. Thoughts sped up to a speed not yet identified in my brain. Everything was adding up, and not in the way I wanted. My brain was an alien who hated me ... (jk, in retrospect, the experience wasn't as bad as it seemed then). Things were growing and shrinking, and all colors were connected with my emotions, and changing. Music scared the sht out of me, and I ended up spending most of the time watching Tv, which was the lesser of the nightmare going on around me. The characters in every show kindve would pause, or rewind in the scene, really freaky stuff. The bulk of my experience was watching a live youtube-poop episode, on tv. Meanwhile, something set off the fire alarms, (which I would later find out was all in my head). So I had began to have really bad hallucinations. All this would finally settle after 12 hours, just as LsD had. Now, I cant recall what the "finale" was on shrooms. Although since its not memorable, maybe I forgot it for a reason.
So thats basically it on my psychedelic experience. I still have a lingering interest in DMT, even after all that. Although my last 10 years havent been overly optimistic. Ive had alot of problems, drug episodes that I didnt even want in my energetic circle. And now, Im at a place where things are going well. My situation during that time is nothing like what it is/where i was. My imagination/being-ness has evolved drastically from who I was then to who I am now.
So Im awaiting to see what the future holds.

 

[Transform]

My brain was an alien who hated me

That's an awesome quote! How've the last six years panned out for you? It was interesting to see that you've resurfaced on the forum.

 

[avidya]

2. Theres a certain level of calmness where you start to spin or drift in the direction you are either leaning or viewing, and obviously thats more of like, a small feature of getting too much of anything, or more so like, either what happens when youve gotten too high on one sortve thread of motion, or youve accelerated into a purely tactile, salvia-esque exp. Im assuming DMT has more features to it, since lower levels are described w/ simpler, classical magic-mushroom type things, though i have question around these sorts of terms being used to describe.

For instance, ive heard someone say that its like the brain is looking at things and not knowing how to deal with them, like its cycling through possibilities of perception to try and deal with, or make up, new context (e.g. you look at a geometrical thing that shape shifts into amy rose from sonic, two bananas carried by a turtle dove, and an inhaler connected to loose wires) But thats not what the experience is right? Im assuming here, but would the notions of geometry and such be tied to the sortve, warping, or would it be tied to the things yous were seeing prior, back at the mushroom levels (forgive me, as im sure someone will eventually come in and add the right terminology around that to explain that part)

Just to continue, its not like you are really that cognizant of whats going on, right? or is there some differentiated details that make it clear whats going on? Im sortve putting two and two together here, and cutting the difference, as im assuming if people are describing like, high pitches, and warped space, but then a visually field that lengthens into impossible distances, thats sortve like getting wrapped up in the lengthening of it. Now, that still doesnt seem right, cause perhaps there are some sortve dream elements at play that are just getting mixed up with all these other things, though we'd need a way to describe.

Perhaps theres a way to talk about this lower level and then work up through into the impossibly long, and high pitch place, somehow identifying it, as I can attest to hearing high pitch, very disruptive to my experience, but in the context of really focusing on the natural sine that we all hear. Natural sine/dream spaces could become (prior to falling deeply into) a more alien, sortve *unwanted* experience, as you could technically get lost in the reality, and not the dream story, nor the interactive lucid experience and such—alas its more like, you could be contending with a *wrong place, wrong time* sortve thing, where youve lost yourself (or maybe the having yourself still is the problem) and landing on the wrong configuration space, and that space is the experience.

Of course, its possible everyones experiences are wholly different, like meaning, not in terms of what can be verified, but just in terms of like, agreeing on words. Like, i guess the last question ill ask is if everyone agrees on like, *what the experience is like, in a vague sense*

or it could be that, yous dont think its in capable of being agreed upon, for the fact that theres too many layers of possibilities/directions that one could end up, thus leading to too many different ways to describe. Or maybe its really alot simpler than that, and words are just making it worse in terms of defining.

 

[Transform]

2. Theres a certain level of calmness where you start to spin or drift in the direction you are either leaning or viewing, and obviously thats more of like, a small feature of getting too much of anything, or more so like, either what happens when youve gotten too high on one sortve thread of motion, or youve accelerated into a purely tactile, salvia-esque exp. Im assuming DMT has more features to it, since lower levels are described w/ simpler, classical magic-mushroom type things, though i have question around these sorts of terms being used to describe.

For instance, ive heard someone say that its like the brain is looking at things and not knowing how to deal with them, like its cycling through possibilities of perception to try and deal with, or make up, new context (e.g. you look at a geometrical thing that shape shifts into amy rose from sonic, two bananas carried by a turtle dove, and an inhaler connected to loose wires) But thats not what the experience is right? Im assuming here, but would the notions of geometry and such be tied to the sortve, warping, or would it be tied to the things yous were seeing prior, back at the mushroom levels (forgive me, as im sure someone will eventually come in and add the right terminology around that to explain that part)

Just to continue, its not like you are really that cognizant of whats going on, right? or is there some differentiated details that make it clear whats going on? Im sortve putting two and two together here, and cutting the difference, as im assuming if people are describing like, high pitches, and warped space, but then a visually field that lengthens into impossible distances, thats sortve like getting wrapped up in the lengthening of it. Now, that still doesnt seem right, cause perhaps there are some sortve dream elements at play that are just getting mixed up with all these other things, though we'd need a way to describe.

Perhaps theres a way to talk about this lower level and then work up through into the impossibly long, and high pitch place, somehow identifying it, as I can attest to hearing high pitch, very disruptive to my experience, but in the context of really focusing on the natural sine that we all hear. Natural sine/dream spaces could become (prior to falling deeply into) a more alien, sortve *unwanted* experience, as you could technically get lost in the reality, and not the dream story, nor the interactive lucid experience and such—alas its more like, you could be contending with a *wrong place, wrong time* sortve thing, where youve lost yourself (or maybe the having yourself still is the problem) and landing on the wrong configuration space, and that space is the experience.

Of course, its possible everyones experiences are wholly different, like meaning, not in terms of what can be verified, but just in terms of like, agreeing on words. Like, i guess the last question ill ask is if everyone agrees on like, *what the experience is like, in a vague sense*

or it could be that, yous dont think its in capable of being agreed upon, for the fact that theres too many layers of possibilities/directions that one could end up, thus leading to too many different ways to describe. Or maybe its really alot simpler than that, and words are just making it worse in terms of defining.

er, was that half a post, or did you reply to the wrong thread? Maybe both? I'd be interested to know what preceeded the "2", and what this is all in reference to.

 

[avidya]

er, was that half a post, or did you reply to the wrong thread? Maybe both? I'd be interested to know what preceeded the "2", and what this is all in reference to.

haha., o woops. yes, this was a continuation from another post. Oh im all mixed up now. Im thinkin i may just continue it all here then, as i thought of a funny point to make for point (3). Maybe i should repost the first one here, to have it all together first, im not sure

 

[avidya]

3. For my third and final point now, i dont wana get two deep into these sub routines in the mind or anything thats like gonna make people think too deeply yet, as I wanna just briefly highlight this thing thats analogous to... Whats that movie (or that line, either from a movie or somethin) where its like, "Aaaand... Its in the movie"... Like in other words, everything is to be made canonical to the movie you are playing, or that it is playing, which means that there has to be a system in managing said scenes, thoughts, feelings and images, a way to ensure that said things dont go out of control. But just to highlight the surface level reality, its like, "Well why is it all makin' sense", its like, well thats like plane 1 inside a cube where, each wall has got a different movie playing, its like, theres this idea of "What is it like to look around the cube, and does it effect plane 1 " (i can come up w a better analogy later) but it has to be down to earth for everyone. Everyone HAS to like it. If no one understands you, if no one likes you, what is the point? And i call this the sortve down to earth dilemma, cause that is what it is most of the time, its like, resolving relationships and our relationships with everyone else, and our own identity is sortve like another person that shares a relationship with some sortve entity/souless/freeform effigy, who may choose to turn off on Exit 1, run away from all identity(s)

The point is like, our exploration into ourselves, as ourselves, is like a multi faceted thing that has tricks. And your job(s) are to collect said tricks ~many - much like keywords, or keys, or codes or something, and then those are your actual Universal keycodes, that which have more priority than your identity, because we're/ you're gonna need those for all sorts of things

I always think about it like those letters with the A, T, G, C, and its like an evolving sequence, and besides for a few constant codes in there, each sequence is liable to change, rearrange, cp/paste, delete, or get extended—its just a matter of what sort of reality we/or you/ or i are in and what direction we are facing, what sirtve rhythm behind the direction/routine, and what sortve constants or primordial codes have transpired after the biggest shifts/transitions in tempo and song have changed (much like the cube we are in, the constants in our life) if yous dont like cubes, then call it a hyper-gon or watever, like an -almost sphere.

If nothing i said made sense, just ignore it...
... As you were... XD