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mad_banshee

mad_banshee

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The latest batch of bark I got ( a few months ago) seems to have a very high yield, and the spice is very white, but there seems to be something wrong with the strength I think. Today swim loaded up a really big sandwiched parsley bowl and had a very slow come-on and no breakthru.
Someone told me yellow spice is better for smoking, and spice like this is better for eating. Can anyone confirm that or tell me if there is something to do that would make spice like this more smokeable?

TIA
 
mad_banshee said:
The latest batch of bark I got ( a few months ago) seems to have a very high yield, and the spice is very white, but there seems to be something wrong with the strength I think. Today swim loaded up a really big sandwiched parsley bowl and had a very slow come-on and no breakthru.
Someone told me yellow spice is better for smoking, and spice like this is better for eating. Can anyone confirm that or tell me if there is something to do that would make spice like this more smokeable?

TIA
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Sounds like that advice is 180 off. Smoke the clean eat the yellow is the feelings of most. Some like a little yellow. I prefer transparent spice xtals. Freeze percipt can be quite fluffy. Really need scales to be sure of dose.


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Are you weighing out your doses?

Some batches look like massive yields but when you weight it out it turns out to be a normal yield, just fluffy xtals (as House pointed out).

White spice is more than fine to smoke. It is the cleanest, least harsh type of DMT xtal to smoke. Yellow won't get you there any better though some like the experience better.

It sounds to me like you just need to weight out a solid 50mgs, if you do just have fluffy xtals you'll be surpirsed at how much you really need.

That being said, maybe do 50% more than last time and see where that takes you...your experience sounds very much like an underdose to me.
 
acolon_5 said:
Are you weighing out your doses?
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Thanks for the advice.
No, I was only eyeballing, so I think you may be correct in that the amount was too small. I just brought out the scale and saw that it is very light, so will try doubling next time.
I thought not though because after not getting off I still got a very heavy chemical feeling and that chemical comedown feeling I sometimes get if I do a high dose. I'm trying to decide if its the batch thats not great or my use of it.
Do folks get a big difference between different batches of root bark? For those longtime experienced users, is the experience often very different or much the same batch to batch?
 
dmt is dmt, if thats what youre asking.. at least IMO, it doesnt change from batch to batch.. if you have clean stuff, its always the same.. Maybe having some more n-oxide, if your dmt is more oily and yellow, then it could be a bit less active in terms of weight, but still you can get there, breakthrough and all of that. Its usually a matter of smoking technique and having scaled the right amount :)
 
Swim had the same problem, made a second batch off same bark (using heptane) and it worked the first time but its tough getting anywhere good with this stuff. Someone mentioned that yellow spice (with oils and whatnot) help keep it from burning... So swim still has enough for one more extraction and is gonna use naptha this time with the intent of pulling oils and fats with the spice to help protect it from the heat.
 
lonewolf123 said:
Swim had the same problem, made a second batch off same bark (using heptane) and it worked the first time but its tough getting anywhere good with this stuff. Someone mentioned that yellow spice (with oils and whatnot) help keep it from burning... So swim still has enough for one more extraction and is gonna use naptha this time with the intent of pulling oils and fats with the spice to help protect it from the heat.
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That may be the key. My last batch from different bark was much more yellow and oily, and it had a super launch, worked incredibly well. This stuff is much lighter and fluffy and doesn't seem to want to kick in.
 
I have, only once, gotten a batch of "mimosa" that produced very strange effects. The bark was tan, very tan, almost khaki colored. It only produced OEV even at extremely high doses.

Your experience does not sound like it was that, just an underdose...and to me underdoses are horrible. They produce in my a very unpleasant effet complete with depression, dysphoria, heavy body load...just no fun.

Yeah, if you have one, use a scale, go easy when you vaporize the spice, burning the spice can also cause an underdose even with 50+mgs as most of the spice degrades before hitting the lungs.

A recrystalization (room temp NOT freeze precipitation) will give you much denser xtals and might make dosing without a scale a bit easier.
 
acolon_5 said:
I have, only once, gotten a batch of "mimosa" that produced very strange effects. The bark was tan, very tan, almost khaki colored. It only produced OEV even at extremely high doses.

Your experience does not sound like it was that, just an underdose...and to me underdoses are horrible. They produce in my a very unpleasant effet complete with depression, dysphoria, heavy body load...just no fun.
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You were SO right. The most intense experience ever I think was with this spice today when I greatly increased the amount. The experience today was VERY powerful, so much so that it didn't even have a launch period per-se, it was more like I was here then zoom - not here. Also, no heavy body load, as you mentioned, even though I doubled the amount. Thats very strange how half the amount gave me a yucky chemical leftover feeling, but double that felt much better on the body with only a lot of nice tingling feeling left over.
Thanks so much Acolon and all, your advice gave me a new understanding of how to utilize this AMAZING material.
 
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