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How long until you could actually use a Mimosa Hostilis plant?

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behindthelight

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Let's say you planted a MH plant in your backyard that was 6-9 inches tall. How long until you could actually harvest some of the root bark? 5 years? 10 years?
 
Depending on how fast it grows, I'd say at least 2 - 3 years.

Once it starts producing seed pods, that would be a sure fire way to know it's got some alkaloid content to it.
 
Sweet. I found a site that sells them already planted and they are like 6" tall. I'm gonna order one and plant it.

Do you guys have any idea how big they get? Height and Width?

Thanks.
 
taller than you, and very bushy if you grow them that way..well if you top them I guess..depends on how much light they get I guess..at first though they just grow straight up it seems.

They are very easy to start from seed. I started all mine from seed but an already established plant should do well too once it gets acustomed to your climate I guess.

Just dont baby it too much and overwater it etc..this plant is a survivor so dont worry to much just give it light and water when the soil drys out, some nutrients here and there and dont let it freeze. It thrives when temps are warmer I find..grows alot in the summer here.
 
behindthelight said:
Sweet. I found a site that sells them already planted and they are like 6" tall. I'm gonna order one and plant it.

Do you guys have any idea how big they get? Height and Width?

Thanks.
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Well, it depends on a lot of factors like jamie was saying.

The first and foremost is the amount of root area you give it. If you keep it in a little pot, you'll have a little tree.

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Give her a big pot and she'll obviously get a lot bigger.

Plant her in the ground and she'll get a whole lot bigger.

It seems the more you stress them, the more they thrive; at least for the local variety of mimosa's we have here in Florida. A buddy of mine tried to remove some mimosa trees that were too close to his house and the more he tried to remove them, the heartier it would grow back. He finally gave up and that thing is massively huge now.

If you use a good soil (I recommend FoxFarm Ocean Forest with some coca-coir and Light Warrior, also from Fox Farm) then you should be able to control the size (somewhat) by the pot size.

As jamie stated, their natural course of growth is strait up before they branch out but you could do some (VERY LIGHT AND MILD) pruning in the first couple of years to make her bush out more at the beginning. I really don't recommend that because they don't sprout many new growth spots. If you do prune, make sure that you leave at least one sprig of growth on there. That would be something to practice more when you have more plants (seedlings or clones) to work with.

Just give her love and listen to her and you should be fine. Happy gardening! :)
 
jamie said:
taller than you, and very bushy if you grow them that way..well if you top them I guess..depends on how much light they get I guess..at first though they just grow straight up it seems.

They are very easy to start from seed. I started all mine from seed but an already established plant should do well too once it gets acustomed to your climate I guess.

Just dont baby it too much and overwater it etc..this plant is a survivor so dont worry to much just give it light and water when the soil drys out, some nutrients here and there and dont let it freeze. It thrives when temps are warmer I find..grows alot in the summer here.
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So, do you like to keep your in a pot or do you like to plant it outside in the ground?
 
behindthelight said:
jamie said:
taller than you, and very bushy if you grow them that way..well if you top them I guess..depends on how much light they get I guess..at first though they just grow straight up it seems.

They are very easy to start from seed. I started all mine from seed but an already established plant should do well too once it gets acustomed to your climate I guess.

Just dont baby it too much and overwater it etc..this plant is a survivor so dont worry to much just give it light and water when the soil drys out, some nutrients here and there and dont let it freeze. It thrives when temps are warmer I find..grows alot in the summer here.
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So, do you like to keep your in a pot or do you like to plant it outside in the ground?
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I am on the west coast of canada, so mine are in pots. In florida I would imagine they will do good outdoors in the ground though..so would a number of acacia species I would bet..
 
behindthelight said:
Melodic Catastrophe said:
It seems the more you stress them, the more they thrive; at least for the local variety of mimosa's we have here in Florida.
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So, you are telling me that there are wild MH plants in Florida?

I live in South Florida.
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The native trees here in Florida are not Mimosa Hostilis...

I believe the breed/strain is called Mimosa Pudica (shy plant).

EDIT : More info can be found here on the Mimosa Pudica strain. Be careful, potentially very toxic.
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MH should grow fine in South Florida though. Just make sure to keep it away from any frosts.

The native mimosa pudica plants die off every winter and come back in the spring. I'm not 100% sure that mimosa hostilis would come back in the spring if it got frosted but it could be possible. I'd rather play it safe than sorry and keep her away from extreme cold if at all possible.

When I first learned about DMT I tried to extract some from the local Mimosa Pudica plants. I got some yield using a STB w/ NaOH and Naptha but I had no way to test what was or wasn't in there; so I never used any of it.

I'd try it again if I had access to some testing equipment.
 
Kash said:
I have been curious for awhile how exactly you grow a MH tree and can harvest bark for spice without killing the tree?
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lol...yeah...I was thinking about that too....but I figured I would worry about that when the time came...
 
I think normally when mimosa is harvested they harvest about 1/3rd of the roots and then trim the branches a bit..this does not kill the tree..it keeps on growing.

Stem/branch bark is active as well from what I have heard..but it it like 10-20x less potent than rootbark..but hey when my trees are bending over at the cieling and I neeed to chop some branches off I wont be complaining even if I get 1 or 2 doses of branch bark..

This is I got a whole wack of different acacia seeds though about to germ that all have very active leaves..as well as some brachys..

Harvest what I can from each plant..

Ayahuasca Borealis.
 
I recommend pruning as harshly as you feel is safe. I have a couple going on a year old now, both indoor grown, and they're essentially just long thorny whips. And they shed over everything. The only way you could possibly believe mine are remotely good-looking plants is if you vaped the entire contents of the 12" pots they're growing in.

Those bonsai images make me somewhat jealous.
 
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