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how many experience the entry as I do?

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mad_banshee

mad_banshee

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Went to hyperspace today again, and every time its the same entrance... one large hit, then I see the explosive tunnel and then there is this object? thing? and I am told to look, but not to look, to focus, focus, focus...take me to a peak, then focus, focus, focus again, maybe one more time, then its breakthru, and I don't remember so much about what happens during the breakthus, its like trying to remember a dream.

What I am asking is, do most spicenauts also get this focus, focus, focus thing at the start of the journey? I know McKenna spoke of it, so I assume its a very common experience? That initial focusing thing can be a bit scary? astonishing? hard to find the correct word.... like I'm seeing my life or death pivot point I think.

Peace
Sight Seeker
 
Lol....so far, nobody I guess.
Its a very strange interaction and I know that Terrence McKenna spoke of it, so I know there is something to it that others may experience.
I wonder if it is from a VERY strong initial doseage in which swim takes one huge inhalation and in which swim is very succeptible to the effects of this spice, and next time he will take smaller amounts to try to more slowly and perhaps gently approach the experience.

Peace
Sight Seeker
 
If SWIM is trying to blast off, he usually sets down the pipe and closes his eyes.
It actually starts somewhat slower for him than most people describe...
He just sits there and waits for "the world" to come to him so it seems.
It always comes from a point above and to the right of his head.
As it flows in, if he let's it, it'll completely surround and consume him until his human body is blocked off.
Then, it slowly fades the same way it came until the world is gone and he's left with CEV in his center field of vision.
 
SWIM has gotten a 'show me show me show me' monologue in his head before, but focusing seemed out of the question during that particular experience.
 
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SWIM has gotten a 'show me show me show me' monologue in his head before, but focusing seemed out of the question during that particular experience.
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That could be the same. My word "focus" is the closest word I can match with the experience. It's kind of like a gateway magician of everything telling swim to look, look at the swirling toy, like he(it) is teaching swim up to the peak of some sort of orgasm of breakthru, then disappearing and everything becomes a dream from that point. The words "orgasmic breakthru" don't do justice either, as its not 100 percent pleasent...it just "is what it is" with its amazing yet dark scary side too.

Only about a dozen spice trips under swims belt, so swim has a lot to learn I'm sure.
 
Swim has similar experience with DMT. There is a strong sense that he is being presented with a puzzle, or a series of puzzles, and that he is meant to solve them by manipulating his cognitive and emotional state. Although SWIM has never had a proper breakthrough with DMT with real detailed visionary content, the colors and symbols and geometrical motifs that he sees on spice all seem to be malleable and susceptible to his concentration and intent. These colors and structures are beautiful and interesting but swim often feels that they are distractions obscuring the real point of the trip. It's like the spice is saying, there is meaning here, pay attention, but swim is not sure what he is supposed to pay attention to.
 
sight_seeker said:
Only about a dozen spice trips under swims belt, so swim has a lot to learn I'm sure.
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SWIM is in the same boat.
I don't think anyone has learned all there is to learn through DMT.
Isn't it just learning about yourself?
 
sight_seeker said:
Lol....so far, nobody I guess.
Its a very strange interaction and I know that Terrence McKenna spoke of it, so I know there is something to it that others may experience.
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I do believe there lies the problem with alot of "spicnauts" (as you call them). They read some stuff that T.M. spoke of and the impression ,however subtle, has been embedded into your expectation and lack of a better description.
To this day I've yet to see any jeweled basketballs dribbling into my domain or any self transforming machine elves or the crysanthumum that McKenna spoke of so vividly.
Doesnt mean that I have any doubt in your similar accounts of how you percieve your dmt trips.

It's just alot easier to let Terrance do the descriptions as he seemed to have a way with which to word HIS accounts on dmt. I on the other hand lack the proper understanding of how to explain the shit I've seen to the point of not even trying to. At least not here without a notebook and my camcorder on me so as to immediatly record all the utterly impossible and sometimes horrific encounters as fast and clearly as possible.
Anything else is in my opinion either some really good memory, or some Terrance McKenna influence.

If that sounded like me being a dickhead....my bad. I just felt it had to be said for my own peace of mind. By the way it is well known that McKenna died after dealing with a rather nasty form of brain cancer. Maybe this could account for the various things he's wrote of that few of us (shy of a brain tumor) will ever see, on dmt, or not!

God I'm an asshole.
 
lowjackalIf that sounded like me being a dickhead....my bad. I just felt it had to be said for my own peace of mind. By the way it is well known that McKenna died after dealing with a rather nasty form of brain cancer. Maybe this could account for the various things he's wrote of that few of us (shy of a brain tumor) will ever see, on dmt, or not!

God I'm an asshole.
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You're not being an asshole IMO. You have a good point, and in general I agree that some might "see" what they see due to influence and expectations. McKenna spoke of machine elves and such...and I never see those sorts of things, but the crysanthemum, yes, I do and every single time. But then again, even swims salvia trips are usually about life and death and dancing on that edge of "to be or not to be", so maybe this has a lot to do with it. I hope it doesn't mean I have a brain tumor growing....lol....oh, I shouldn't laugh... thats not really funny, especially if it comes to pass! But then again, I'm not much afraid of death anyway.
 
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