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I probably don't come off this way but I like to think that I am a show me the proof type as well........


I strongly believe that if one is able to shut off the thoughts and become fully aware.... then it is possible to see the proof.  The trouble comes because I can't prove that your not just using your perception to it's fullest potential..


Only by having the experience can proof be revealed...  The proof is revealed on an individual basis however because the will of God is to remain concealed except to those who seek him... by seek him I simply mean allowing yourself to become fully aware so that you can percieve energy directly.


-e


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