Nexus, thank you.
I had an experience last night I'd like to share, I'll recount some from my tripping journal [using square brackets for info added today]:
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Going for a stronger dose tonight with the chiricaspi [I tested the waters of this plant earlier this week @ 8 leaves which I guess to be a few grams + 5g chali brewed w/ white vinegar and caapi/rue using two pulls], also adding pepper since it's going to be raw plant consumption washed down with bottled water. Order will be: P. nigra, [D. inoxia,] P. harmala/B. caapi, M. hostillis/D. cabrarena/B. chiricaspi ~ with little (if any) time between each group. [All plants are combined into their respective groups and ground to a fine powder with a spice mill, then placed in separate bowls, whetted with a bit of water and eaten with a spoon. A small bit of wet plant matter is held on the tongue in a compact bolus and gently washed down with a minimal sip of water.]
=>note: caapi white grinds to powder much easier than the generic caapi from a different vendor
1g-2g P. harmala
10g-15g B. caapi (white)
¾ tsp freshly ground pepper
1 seed datura inoxia
13+ leaves B. chiricaspi
~5g M. hostillis
~5g D. cabrarena
[All measurements were eyeballed with a “trained” eye, previous experience with these specific batches and what their weights look like is taken into account. The caapi, however, was just what appeared to be 1/7-1/6 of a 100g bag.]
Quite a stack of ingredients, glad I've taken the time to get to know each a little bit so that I'm comfortable with eating them all together. I'm a little sleep-deprived tonight, so consider that too – 2-3 hours last night and 1.5 hour nap just moments ago. Hoping early ingestion [sunset] will maintain sleep-schedule-times, though it's not all important because the weekend is beginning. I had .5 biscuits, some salami, and two hard boiled eggs about 3 hours ago. Let T0.00 = 7:55pm.
0.00 Black pepper eaten, kind of pleasant to have a spoonful...exotic almost. Datura seed also ingested.
0.08 MAOI mixture consumed *shudder*. Not as pleasant as the pepper. Some got stuck in the throat and caused a gag reflex, lesson to not gulp too much at once. Took me the whole 8 min to eat it – even licked the bowl clean.
0.19 dm-Sludge-t started. [Took a break for the last ten minutes to settle the mouth and esophagus by preparing the bedroom]
0.31 finished [bowl also licked clean]. Can feel some alteration. Expecting fuller effects in 15min+. Turning off computer/music (Manu Chao – Proxima Esperanza) and lights – bedroom is already prepped. I am very full, it took 700ml of water to wash it all down, laying sounds great.
Love to all
6.35
“I've found myself” seems so small [however accurate] in comparison to this feeling. I have shed a skin I didn't even know I was wearing and devoured it for POWER! Thusly, I AM BORN!
The trip was beautiful, is beautiful. Never once was overwhelming, even in the first part where it was quite negative (pre skin shed, perhaps 'during') and was in fact Empowering => intuition explostion, FIGHTINGSEXEXPLOSION! to be precise. Visuals, visions, mind space, patterns and shape language all leaving 'Glorious! Glorious! Glorious!' far in the dust.
I have truly leveled up, fuckpast, I Am Now! as an ever expanding betterment!
***
I'm soooo happy with this experience. On previous occasions, I've been subject to the throws of psychedelic ecstacy and rolled around moaning with superpleasure and howling on occasion. This was more, I got up and danced (Thievery Corporation – Richest Man in Babylon) when my stomach finally got a good grasp of the plant matter (I do not dance) and proceeded to shout many times, in addition to the superpleasure and powerhowling. The time spent using effort to hold in the plants was paralleled by holding on to my wasego, the dancing marked letting go of anchors and unnecessary weights. After dancing, I sat and put on the Cosmic Game and went to town with my mind. It was just too good to change the album and I was excited to hear it begin for the third repeat (lost track of how many times I'd heard the songs after “third”). There were crazy layers/levels/dimensions to the sounds and recording I haven't heard before, and this album was one of my classic tripping albums when I was in the buying/doing mushrooms/acid phase of my life. Maybe I just forgot. Maybe hearseefeeling the music in this mindspace was more; the beats and construction of sounds are an earnest reflection of mind, with the option of dipping into wonderful lyrics whenever you so choose.
The perception given with this combination of plants is great.
My test trip with chiricaspi gave me an idea of what it does with chaliponga. I chose chaliponga because the 5meo and other alkaloids over mimosa provide depth to the visions. Just dmt itself is great but can come off as flat to me in comparison sometimes – plus if I was planning on really getting to mixing, I wanted to experience chiricaspi with a small amount of more dimensions to give me an idea of how it is, more angles to see it from, and eventually provide confidence with it in stronger doses. It brings new shapes and patterns that I am not familiar with experiencing on normal ayahuasca without it, many color ranges to these items, and overall really intricate expressions of mind space. There is physical dis-coordination and some variability in body temperature (not just “cold” like the stuff I've read online has led me to believe, maybe they had more or maybe it was just the fact that they had it by itself) so a bed with many blankets available is a good idea. It almost feels like a light psychedelic sedative, the dis-coordination acting as a bodily-lassitude. I don't feel glued to or melted into the bed, but walking to the bathroom is like a rolling saunter with lessened balance. Also, there's discontinuous tracers (like retinal echoes) when the lights are on – not something I get with aya.
I don't know what people really mean when they speak of “the void” but I've always assumed it's the great expanse experienced on 5meo, and on last night's trip it was filled with patterns and visuals in higher dimensional expression as far as the mind's eye could see. Truly Righteous.
Oh, and the pepper. It was not uncomfortable on the stomach at any point of the trip. There are two sizes of metal spoons, the teaspoon is the larger. The most noticeable thing was the more rapid onset of effects. I've read that chiricaspi takes effect in 15-20 minutes which may or may not be around the time that aya takes to start, but visions (people I don't know in places that I was not and have not been, and increased perception of multiple thought streams and their constructions) started in much less than ten minutes from my laying down. I did take 10 minutes to eat the post-maoi plant mix, so however that all works into the timing I am not really concerned with. I don't know that it increased the effects in intensity or length, but this trip was very long lasting in physical time. The peak wasn't a quick little glance into eternity, it was really long. Really long. Many Hours. Literally. And when I got to six and a half hours and began writing again, it was not because the effects had subsided, my mind was utterly exhausted and I wanted to turn on the lights to give it a break. After that, I resumed laying in the dark to enjoy the visual bliss and wind myself into sleep. Normally for me, aya peaks for an hour to a couple at most, with come up and come down being a few hours. This plateau expanse could just be the other plants though (not pepper). I do get that pre-launch anxiety (including thought cycles such as: Will this terrify me beyond point of return? Did I take too much? What if it doesn't absorb? Will I have to purge to escape the effects? How painful will that be? Is this even going to work?), and this pepper apparently lessens the amount of time it has to operate. Plus any alkaloids in it that increase bio-availability only help get the most out of what you put in you, I would think. Whenever I get around to eating aya again, I'll definitely begin with pepper.
The subjects of my thoughts and experiences were both cosmic (nature of mind, language, math, etc.) and personal (where I am physically and mentally in my life progression, what I am *doing* with my life and how it resonates with where I've come from and what I've *done*, who I really AM, the importance of various pursuits and studies, etc.) One of my favorite things about aya is the ability to take a deep look at things in life that bother me and experience the full effects of how and why they bother me, and once we are one-hiding-nothing, what I can do to work them out from the deepest of our (mine and the issue's) cores and construct pure health from within there on out to application. Usually I go either mostly cosmic or personal with my trips, this one was some definite higher shit spanning and combining the two. I had a thought kind of like, “It may be important to 'think big' about the 'ever bigger picture', but it is also important to think small. Not just small like here and now, but smaller and always smaller into the limit of infinitesimality.” Working with letters and their combinations and subsequent feelings and colors and imagery (visuals) was very satisfying. Also, lol @ ”working”. Spanish has entered my life again, and I viewed it as a creature (literally a whole creature-cloud in this space) waaay complex looking (like a morphic-mass of it's own set of paisleys and faces and patterns, different from what I was experiencing working in my own familiar mind) and challenging (like someone who challenges you to a fight, but more as a constant facet of it's existence) and mentally seductive. I will battle it and make the mind sex with it, until it is completely demolished and devoured into my being, whereupon I will continue the mind sex into each and every little tiny corner and nook of it's existence. I won't try to recount all of what happened, it's really deeply integrated into me.
I don't plan on tripping this hard for quite a while, I've gained action-momentum and I worship its expression.
I like the idea of the Nursery, it's perfect for my feeling. I will contribute myself to the Nexus when I feel it, and I hope to learn and grow more from the knowledge provided. Today I contribute both because I wanted to recommend the chiricaspi to those who feel ready for it, but mostly because
this is truly an earth-shattering breakthrough experience.
I had an experience last night I'd like to share, I'll recount some from my tripping journal [using square brackets for info added today]:
***
Going for a stronger dose tonight with the chiricaspi [I tested the waters of this plant earlier this week @ 8 leaves which I guess to be a few grams + 5g chali brewed w/ white vinegar and caapi/rue using two pulls], also adding pepper since it's going to be raw plant consumption washed down with bottled water. Order will be: P. nigra, [D. inoxia,] P. harmala/B. caapi, M. hostillis/D. cabrarena/B. chiricaspi ~ with little (if any) time between each group. [All plants are combined into their respective groups and ground to a fine powder with a spice mill, then placed in separate bowls, whetted with a bit of water and eaten with a spoon. A small bit of wet plant matter is held on the tongue in a compact bolus and gently washed down with a minimal sip of water.]
=>note: caapi white grinds to powder much easier than the generic caapi from a different vendor
1g-2g P. harmala
10g-15g B. caapi (white)
¾ tsp freshly ground pepper
1 seed datura inoxia
13+ leaves B. chiricaspi
~5g M. hostillis
~5g D. cabrarena
[All measurements were eyeballed with a “trained” eye, previous experience with these specific batches and what their weights look like is taken into account. The caapi, however, was just what appeared to be 1/7-1/6 of a 100g bag.]
Quite a stack of ingredients, glad I've taken the time to get to know each a little bit so that I'm comfortable with eating them all together. I'm a little sleep-deprived tonight, so consider that too – 2-3 hours last night and 1.5 hour nap just moments ago. Hoping early ingestion [sunset] will maintain sleep-schedule-times, though it's not all important because the weekend is beginning. I had .5 biscuits, some salami, and two hard boiled eggs about 3 hours ago. Let T0.00 = 7:55pm.
0.00 Black pepper eaten, kind of pleasant to have a spoonful...exotic almost. Datura seed also ingested.
0.08 MAOI mixture consumed *shudder*. Not as pleasant as the pepper. Some got stuck in the throat and caused a gag reflex, lesson to not gulp too much at once. Took me the whole 8 min to eat it – even licked the bowl clean.
0.19 dm-Sludge-t started. [Took a break for the last ten minutes to settle the mouth and esophagus by preparing the bedroom]
0.31 finished [bowl also licked clean]. Can feel some alteration. Expecting fuller effects in 15min+. Turning off computer/music (Manu Chao – Proxima Esperanza) and lights – bedroom is already prepped. I am very full, it took 700ml of water to wash it all down, laying sounds great.
Love to all
6.35
I AM BORN!
That being said, I am also exhausted and still tripping a bit. I listened to Thievery Corporation's Cosmic Game like 4 or 5 or 6 times for a part of the peak. “I've found myself” seems so small [however accurate] in comparison to this feeling. I have shed a skin I didn't even know I was wearing and devoured it for POWER! Thusly, I AM BORN!
The trip was beautiful, is beautiful. Never once was overwhelming, even in the first part where it was quite negative (pre skin shed, perhaps 'during') and was in fact Empowering => intuition explostion, FIGHTINGSEXEXPLOSION! to be precise. Visuals, visions, mind space, patterns and shape language all leaving 'Glorious! Glorious! Glorious!' far in the dust.
I have truly leveled up, fuckpast, I Am Now! as an ever expanding betterment!
***
I'm soooo happy with this experience. On previous occasions, I've been subject to the throws of psychedelic ecstacy and rolled around moaning with superpleasure and howling on occasion. This was more, I got up and danced (Thievery Corporation – Richest Man in Babylon) when my stomach finally got a good grasp of the plant matter (I do not dance) and proceeded to shout many times, in addition to the superpleasure and powerhowling. The time spent using effort to hold in the plants was paralleled by holding on to my wasego, the dancing marked letting go of anchors and unnecessary weights. After dancing, I sat and put on the Cosmic Game and went to town with my mind. It was just too good to change the album and I was excited to hear it begin for the third repeat (lost track of how many times I'd heard the songs after “third”). There were crazy layers/levels/dimensions to the sounds and recording I haven't heard before, and this album was one of my classic tripping albums when I was in the buying/doing mushrooms/acid phase of my life. Maybe I just forgot. Maybe hearseefeeling the music in this mindspace was more; the beats and construction of sounds are an earnest reflection of mind, with the option of dipping into wonderful lyrics whenever you so choose.
The perception given with this combination of plants is great.
My test trip with chiricaspi gave me an idea of what it does with chaliponga. I chose chaliponga because the 5meo and other alkaloids over mimosa provide depth to the visions. Just dmt itself is great but can come off as flat to me in comparison sometimes – plus if I was planning on really getting to mixing, I wanted to experience chiricaspi with a small amount of more dimensions to give me an idea of how it is, more angles to see it from, and eventually provide confidence with it in stronger doses. It brings new shapes and patterns that I am not familiar with experiencing on normal ayahuasca without it, many color ranges to these items, and overall really intricate expressions of mind space. There is physical dis-coordination and some variability in body temperature (not just “cold” like the stuff I've read online has led me to believe, maybe they had more or maybe it was just the fact that they had it by itself) so a bed with many blankets available is a good idea. It almost feels like a light psychedelic sedative, the dis-coordination acting as a bodily-lassitude. I don't feel glued to or melted into the bed, but walking to the bathroom is like a rolling saunter with lessened balance. Also, there's discontinuous tracers (like retinal echoes) when the lights are on – not something I get with aya.
I don't know what people really mean when they speak of “the void” but I've always assumed it's the great expanse experienced on 5meo, and on last night's trip it was filled with patterns and visuals in higher dimensional expression as far as the mind's eye could see. Truly Righteous.
Oh, and the pepper. It was not uncomfortable on the stomach at any point of the trip. There are two sizes of metal spoons, the teaspoon is the larger. The most noticeable thing was the more rapid onset of effects. I've read that chiricaspi takes effect in 15-20 minutes which may or may not be around the time that aya takes to start, but visions (people I don't know in places that I was not and have not been, and increased perception of multiple thought streams and their constructions) started in much less than ten minutes from my laying down. I did take 10 minutes to eat the post-maoi plant mix, so however that all works into the timing I am not really concerned with. I don't know that it increased the effects in intensity or length, but this trip was very long lasting in physical time. The peak wasn't a quick little glance into eternity, it was really long. Really long. Many Hours. Literally. And when I got to six and a half hours and began writing again, it was not because the effects had subsided, my mind was utterly exhausted and I wanted to turn on the lights to give it a break. After that, I resumed laying in the dark to enjoy the visual bliss and wind myself into sleep. Normally for me, aya peaks for an hour to a couple at most, with come up and come down being a few hours. This plateau expanse could just be the other plants though (not pepper). I do get that pre-launch anxiety (including thought cycles such as: Will this terrify me beyond point of return? Did I take too much? What if it doesn't absorb? Will I have to purge to escape the effects? How painful will that be? Is this even going to work?), and this pepper apparently lessens the amount of time it has to operate. Plus any alkaloids in it that increase bio-availability only help get the most out of what you put in you, I would think. Whenever I get around to eating aya again, I'll definitely begin with pepper.
The subjects of my thoughts and experiences were both cosmic (nature of mind, language, math, etc.) and personal (where I am physically and mentally in my life progression, what I am *doing* with my life and how it resonates with where I've come from and what I've *done*, who I really AM, the importance of various pursuits and studies, etc.) One of my favorite things about aya is the ability to take a deep look at things in life that bother me and experience the full effects of how and why they bother me, and once we are one-hiding-nothing, what I can do to work them out from the deepest of our (mine and the issue's) cores and construct pure health from within there on out to application. Usually I go either mostly cosmic or personal with my trips, this one was some definite higher shit spanning and combining the two. I had a thought kind of like, “It may be important to 'think big' about the 'ever bigger picture', but it is also important to think small. Not just small like here and now, but smaller and always smaller into the limit of infinitesimality.” Working with letters and their combinations and subsequent feelings and colors and imagery (visuals) was very satisfying. Also, lol @ ”working”. Spanish has entered my life again, and I viewed it as a creature (literally a whole creature-cloud in this space) waaay complex looking (like a morphic-mass of it's own set of paisleys and faces and patterns, different from what I was experiencing working in my own familiar mind) and challenging (like someone who challenges you to a fight, but more as a constant facet of it's existence) and mentally seductive. I will battle it and make the mind sex with it, until it is completely demolished and devoured into my being, whereupon I will continue the mind sex into each and every little tiny corner and nook of it's existence. I won't try to recount all of what happened, it's really deeply integrated into me.
I don't plan on tripping this hard for quite a while, I've gained action-momentum and I worship its expression.
I like the idea of the Nursery, it's perfect for my feeling. I will contribute myself to the Nexus when I feel it, and I hope to learn and grow more from the knowledge provided. Today I contribute both because I wanted to recommend the chiricaspi to those who feel ready for it, but mostly because
this is truly an earth-shattering breakthrough experience.