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I think the Gatekeeper tried to kill me....

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Rob24550

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So the other night my girlfriend and I settled in for a changa session together. We like to have a couple a week if possible and I have discovered that I am able to go much deeper when she is with me as a sitter. It always feels a little nerve wracking when alone, but when I know I’m with a safe person I am comfortable taking larger hits and going as deep as possible.

Over the past several weeks, I have been getting progressively deeper. For the first time last week I had the most amazing interaction with several aliens. They were analyzing and prodding me as I was in a prone position. It was a wonderful and warm feeling, and I absolutely felt them touching me and heat radiate throughout my body where they were touching. This went on for a minute or so and as they were fading away, I was approached from the side by what I considered to be the leader, a very feminine but serious alien. She was the traditional gray alien with the angular head and large black eyes like is depicted in so much f our literature.

She came in to the picture just as the other aliens were finishing, and she gave me a knowing and intelligent look. She was not friendly, nor unfriendly. She was neutral, but I sensed very powerful. She left as quickly as she came, but the experience was astounding. I am still processing the beauty of that encounter.

So this time, I wanted to continue my journey into the deeper realms. I loaded a large changa bowl and on the first hit I knew it would be a big one. The first hit went quickly to my head and my vision started wavering. My pipe became visually distorted but I pushed ahead and took another huge hit. I could have stopped there and I am sure would have had a big trip, but I decided to hit it a third time.

As I inhaled the third toke, the world fell out from under me and I was instantly in a deep and unfamiliar part of hyperspace, but still in a waiting room type area. Right as I was going to lay down I sensed a creature in the room who defiantly did not want me to be there. The next few seconds are hard to remember but essentially the creature waved his hands at me and spoke an incantation that completely froze my breath.

I could not remember how to breathe. I simply did not know what to do. The closest I can describe the feeling is to compare it to that scene in the movie The Matrix where Neo has his mouth sewn together when being interrogated by Mr Smith. It felt like I no longer had a mouth, or if I did, I had no knowledge of how to use it. After some time, seconds probably, but it felt like longer, I opened my mouth and somehow drew a breath. After that, I realized that I was going to be ok, but something was stuck in my mouth now. It felt like there was a large piece of cloth or a cotton ball in my mouth which was stopping me from breathing again. I coughed and spit and freed whatever it was. Of course it was nothing but my own imagination (or was it?), but it absolutely felt real at the time.

About the time I got it out and started breathing normally, I was instantly taken to the deepest part of hyperspace I had ever been. Words don’t exist to adequately describe the incredible Creature made of light and energy that floated from space towards me. It was full of love and light and seemed incredibly ancient and sacred and intelligent. I had encountered smaller entities before similar to this one, but this entity was massive and old and I felt like was the source and creator of all the others. It was beautiful and magic beyond words and I was able to stay in this space for a couple minutes before the trip started to fade.

So I am still a little spooked about the gatekeeper creature of this deep realm of hyperspace. I believe that by not panicking and being calm, I was able to get past his tricks, but it seems incredible to me that there is a gatekeeper that would or could cause me to stop breathing in order to keep me away from that level of hyperspace, if in fact that is what was happening. Perhaps I am misinterpreting something.

I am certainly grateful to have been allowed in, but that was spooky and I wonder if anyone has experienced something like that before. I wonder if I will encounter this gatekeeper again and if I do, I hope that we can make peace with each other this time.

Peace To All
Robert
 
a little over a decade ago i was having many sleep paralysis dreams. a recurring experience in that state was a dark frightening presence hovering above me while i lay. during a chance encounter with someone i can only describe as being a mysterious guide i discussed these experiences at length and was given the idea to instead of fearfully breaking out of the paralysis that i could face this dark presence the next time it happens and telepathically tell the presence that i am not afraid of you and that i know you can not harm me.

sure enough i had a sleep paralysis experience a week or so later and i remembered what the mysterious guide had spoken to me. and in the midst of my frightful terror i faced the dark hovering presence and telepathically said that i am not afraid of you and i know that you can not harm me.

instantaneously i popped out of my body and was hovering above myself in a state of total waking consciousness. i could see myself laying on the bed. i was in an out of body experience or astral traveling. the absolute frightful darkness, helplessness, vulnerability and terror seconds ago was completely replaced with astounding joy, peace and contentment.

i remembered what i wanted to do the next time this happened and i looked at my dream body hand. as i lifted my hand in front of my face my hand was a translucent glowing blue hand. i was in complete awe and amazement. my white shiny sparkly glowing light blood vessels could be seen pumping white light through my blue translucent transparent hand. i rotated my hand back and forth with a dropped jaw and disbelief.

i looked around and my family was all there and there was family heirlooms sitting on the dresser. of course i wanted to fly so i jumped through the wall and flew for a bit and gently floated to the ground. as i touched the ground i woke up.

for many years i have thought about and wondered about this experience. one aspect of the experience i have wondered about was the dark frightful presence hovering above me. i have often wondered if the dark presence was a gate keeper of some kind, stationed there to prevent people from traveling in these further realms and realizing and discovering truths about our reality.

a couple things that happened after i had this experience i was able to totally and completely forgive someone in my life that i had despised for many years and secondly the dark presence has not returned. however, in sleep paralysis experiences after that one the source of fear become many other things, all of which were more frightful, one being that i literally couldn't breath, that i was being choked or strangled by unseen forces.

after several choking experiences i decided to stop seeking for awhile out of fear of suffocating to death in my sleep and that was over a decade ago. over the last few years i have slowly started seeking again with many new phenomenal experiences.

while my experience was from sleep induced dmt, after reading your post i felt that we might have had somewhat similar experience.
 
sleep paralysis you spoke of is a first class ticket to an out of body experiance!

Having lucid dreamed many times Ive been chasing this latley and practicing several methods to OBE and sleep paralysis is the easiest way to ..roll out.. of my sleeping body..

Other methods of visulization work.. but are harder to acheive...

When you were getting sleep paralysis were you doing this at will?..or was it some sleep disturbence problem/

In a controled out of body... one can acheive levels of experiance that can dwarf most drug experiances...

If you could do this SP at will please share!..
 
It definitely sounds like both of you past some kind of test.

I used to keep sleep paralysis a lot but it was very annoying and uncomfortable. I very rarely get the paralysis any more but I've since managed to achieve what feels like using my third eye to look around the room and even leave the room although I can't go far, just outside the window.

It could just be some sort of recurring lucid dream or who knows, perhaps there's no distinction.
 
i was intentionally initiating the sleep paralysis

this was through meditation. a meditation that requires grueling perseverance. i was meditating for hours, sometimes up to five hours. laying flat on my back, all the while conducting mindful deep breathing, relaxing my body for an hour or so. then relaxing the mind and internal dialogue for an hour or so. then beginning to relax internal feelings, typically caused by hormones such as adrenaline yet on a very subtle level. the body has a cocktail of hormones swirling around. in a state of total complete relaxation the way these hormones are affecting the mind/body state can be perceived. the act of perceiving these subtle mind/body states enables one to let them go. after the first two or three hours of relaxing mind body and feelings, basically achieving a blank canvas, i began inciting so called chi energy in my body. there is a way to do this which can easily be found, also sanskrit priti.

the first time i ever did this meditation i had some kind of energy kundalini rapture experience that was so powerful i had to break out of the meditation out of fear of spontaneously combusting.

over time i learned more about the subtleties and learned how to move from deep meditation to sleep paralysis.

this kind of meditation takes perseverance and discipline. there are many pitfalls such as distractions, falling asleep and disbelief.
 
I did quite a lot of this kind of "borderline walking" - I call it that because you have to walk a tightrope between sleep and wakefulness - years back, and am tempted to get back to it. A lot more manageable than psychedelics, and at times more profound. It's easy, you just need to do a lot (ie. a metric shitload) of it, and not be discouraged. :D I first got "real" experiences after maybe a year of perseverance.

The "hovering dark presence" I am familiar with, though I never had a breakthrough quite as profound as yours. My theory is that this presence is more a matter of the collective subconscious than any actual entity with its own existence - a dark collective memory and/or the embodiment of our own fear that holds us back.
 
I like that, borderline walking. maintaining mindfulness in a slow dive into delta brain waves

collective unconscious is probably the most rational description of the phenomenon. it first happened to me before i knew anything about what was going on and since learned its a common experience.. incubus also being another similar archetype. although, i also like to imagine that its my time traveling self, the dark presence being just little old me, in the future, the future obe self, hovering above my body, my body in the past.

i wonder if seeing elves or aliens that are a common aya experience are also just part of the collective unconscious
 
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