I want to grow 5-meo-dmt plants

[peace and love]

Hello brothers and sisters.

Virola theiodora sounds good. Does anyone know where I can get the seeds?

Phalaris aquatica Clone #R51 ·'large" amount of 5-MeO-DMT as sole observed al.kaloid. [Same source as R37)
Sounds good too. Does anyone know where to get this clone?

And according to this, yopo bark and roots contain 0.39% and 0.678% 5-meo-dmt. Is that right? A 10x extract of that deposited on ashes would be very potent. I should grow yopo too.

Seedlings 0.024% 5-MeO-DMT (95% of25 mg of total alkaloids / 100 gm dry] Pods without seeds 0.012% 5-MeO-DMT (91% of 13 mg of total alkaloids / 100 gm dry] Leaves 0.094% 5-MeO-DMT (88% of 107mg oftotal alkaloids / 100 gm dry] Twigs 0.0357% 5-MeO-DMT (94% of38 mg of total alkaloids / 100 gm dry) Bark (0.41% total alkaloid) 0.39% 5-MeO-DMT (95% of 410 mg of total alkaloids / 100 gm dry) Roots (0.69% total alkaloid) 0.678% 5-MeO-DMT (97% of 699 mg of total alkaloid / 100 gm dry] (Schultes et al. 1977 ref Trout's notes)

But here it says that it is less potent. Could that be right?:

No.24625; Origin: Boa Vista, Brazil - Bark- 0.025% (25mg of 5-MeO-DMT / 100 gm. of dry bark]

 

[1ce]

There is a major rule about sourcing/buying/selling/smuggling of materials. This included plants and you agreed to adhere to this rule.

You will need to find your own way, there is already a plethora of resources on this site for you to use.

 

[Cognitive Heart]

Viable / Sustainable seeds are fine. Only speak of this. I suggest editing your post to help keep us all fine n' dandy! Phalaris B is known to be high in 5-Meo, yes.

You can inform yourself more to this subforum.---> Welcome to the DMT-Nexus

As well as the ATTITUDE marked above.

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[1ce]

I really wouldn't mind any of the 'big medicine' strain. I hear that's rich in materials. I have a microscale setup that I'd really like to try a few experiments with before doing larger work on my full scale setup.

I'd like to see what conditions the alkaloids can survive. If this where to work it might not be *that* hard to separate 5meo/DMT and cut out bufo/gramine.

As seeds are allowed does anyone know a big medicine strain seed source as that's on topic?

 

[dreamer042]

Big Medicine is a DMT containing strain. Clones are readily available from a couple different vendors.

The only 5-MEO-DMT phalaris strains I know of that are readily available are brachystachys (some varieties seem to be DMT and some 5-MEO-DMT) and the Turkey Red variety of arundinacea, which is out there but can be a bit hard to get hold of.

 

[1ce]

Ill have to do some research to see if there's a vine/bark that contains both

At least in ammounts that wont require chromatography to purify.

 

[--Shadow]

You could grow Acacia auriculiformis

 

[1ce]

Hah! I'd never manage that! I live in an arctic climate. I have a friend that may be able to forward me something though ! Nice find!

I do share OP's thoughts on virola though.

 

[peace and love]

Thanks everyone. So you're saying that if I grow p. Bachystachys from seed each plant will contain either 5-meo-dmt or dmt and I will have to extract and smoke each plant to find out which is which? Does everyone agree that this is a true fact about p. Brachystachys?

I'm glad to here about the acacia too. And I would be glad to here about the vine someone mentioned. Thanks everyone.

 

[Cognitive Heart]

Thanks everyone. So you're saying that if I grow p. Bachystachys from seed each plant will contain either 5-meo-dmt or dmt and I will have to extract and smoke each plant to find out which is which? Does everyone agree that this is a true fact about p. Brachystachys? I'm glad to here about the acacia too. And I would be glad to here about the vine someone mentioned. Thanks everyone.

No, afaik..Brachystachy contains both 5-Meo-DMT and N,N-DMT itself..its just that Brachy has been shown to contain much more 5-Meo than that of N,N-DMT. 5-Meo is known to be much more powerful.

Analysis is recommended to verify which is which. I suppose you could smoke either or and decide, but that just seems foolish.

 

[peace and love]

So p brachystachys contains mostly 5-meo-dmt and just a little bit of dmt? Thats even better. It sounds like p brachystachys is the perfect 5-meo-dmt plant I've been looking for. Thanks for clearing that up for me. I just ordered the seeds.

 

[jamie]

Thanks everyone. So you're saying that if I grow p. Bachystachys from seed each plant will contain either 5-meo-dmt or dmt and I will have to extract and smoke each plant to find out which is which? Does everyone agree that this is a true fact about p. Brachystachys? I'm glad to here about the acacia too. And I would be glad to here about the vine someone mentioned. Thanks everyone.

No, no, no..Brachy contains both 5-Meo-DMT and N,N-DMT itself..its just that Brachy has been shown to contain much more 5-Meo than that of N,N-DMT. 5-Meo is known to be much more powerful.

Analysis is recommended to verify which is which. I suppose you could smoke either or and decide, but that just seems foolish.

Brachystachys does vary, and yes some contains very clean DMT profiles and some contains more 5-MeO-DMT. I am unsure if some strains contain 5-MeO-DMT to the exclusion of DMT, but it is a possibility..benzyme has shown however that grass he tested was indeed DMT dominant with no 5-MeO-DMT. I think it was 9/1 DMT/gramine ratio.

I have tested many grass extracts via personal bioassay to judge the effects. I dont suggest others do that though..especially if you are not already familiar with vaporized tryptamines from known sources to compare. Random seed grown aquatica produced an extract that when vaporized(at a low dose) yielded a tryptamine effect, somewhat different from DMT and similar to what is described of low dose 5-MeO-DMT. I only had one pot of it going and did not have enough to bioassay more.

 

[Cognitive Heart]

Brachystachys does vary, and yes some contains very clean DMT profiles and some contains more 5-MeO-DMT. I am unsure if some strains contain 5-MeO-DMT to the exclusion of DMT, but it is a possibility..benzyme has shown however that grass he tested was indeed DMT dominant with no 5-MeO-DMT. I think it was 9/1 DMT/gramine ratio.

Thanks for the info!

That is a really good ratio for Brachystachy. Growth of the plant would determine volume of alkaloids I would imagine. Let alone the strain.. so we are looking at quite the variable plant in terms of alkaloids.. which actually isn't surprising for Phalaris grass. To assume it contains a specific amount of either compound, or gramine, would only yield confusing results IMO. Unless one is able to verify before bio assaying.

 

[peace and love]

I ordered a phalaris arundinacea turkey red plant which always contains only 5-meo-dmt. It seems to be more what I'm looking for. I ordered an ayahuasca plant too. Soon I'll be vaporizing turkey red grass extract enhanced ayahuasca leaves. And I'll grow p aquatica AQ1 for dmt and p brachystachys that I'll extract and vaporize and it will be a surprise when I find out if it's dmt or 5-meo-dmt or both!