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If you think all I've done is contradict myself, then you CLEARLY have NO comprehension of what I've said. Did you even read what I wrote? Or was it too threatening to your long-held and cherished beliefs? Read it OBJECTIVELY!!!!!!!!!! NOT WITH YOUR BELIEF FILTERS!!!!!

We don't agree because you have a vested interest in hanging on to the bible with two hands. You've invested way too much time and energy to give it up now. To do so would be to admit you may have wasted a lot of time on mythology you do not truly understand.

I will say this about the bible and then bounce off what could have been a productive conversation if you were willing to learn the new ideas I've presented----not BELIEVE them, mind you, because BELIEF IS ALWAYS A LIE. Question EVERYTHING!

People who believe in the bible are much like people who believe in government. They go down with the ship to the bitter end rather than attempt to find new concepts. They sit in their cars screaming at the radio as boring ass NPR preens on, or turn purple with useless anger listening to the conservative station. They attend political rallies for evil men who want power and control (like the clergy) , they throw their money away trying to get the least evolved into office to tell them how to live, and what rules they should follow. So sad, so sad . . .

You don't even have a comment on what I said happened to some of the N A Z I S ??? You're not even remotely curious at all how I know that? Did you even read it and ATTEMPT to understand? Or did you just see a lot of words and go "screw this guy, let's just focus on what I perceive to be contradictions and move on to simpler things".

I'm not trying to get you to throw away your boring bible: I am attempting to show you the actual story is so much more complex, and it is in your extreme arrogance that you think you have it all figured it out. I only have questions and ideas, NOT BELIEFS. The minute you truly believe something is the minute you shut yourself down to the immensity of the totality of Being that exists all around you. You limit yourself with beliefs. In effect, you lock yourself in a tiny room labeled BELIEF.

And the BELIEF room of yours has no windows or doors. There is a crack, though, and if you have the strength to expand your IDEAS, not BLIND BELIEF, you can slip through that crack in that tiny room and participate in the Creation with the rest of us.

Or you can just open your bible to page ten thousand and seventy and read a looooong list of people who beget people and forget about The Maxx and his crazy IDEAS.

And for those who hate reading long posts, I offer my N A Z I story again:

For example, would you like to know what happened to some of the N A Z I S ????? I will tell you: It takes great courage to enter an elemental body, because you are putting yourself in a position where the weakest part of you may imprint your energetic body eternally. Sin is that which bars us from ecstasy. How does sin actually feel? At first, after you die, you begin to taste of the most exquisite pleasure. It is extremely intimate, extremely personal, and as it builds, you begin to live in more and more of your lives. You taste the food, smell the air, you kiss your kisses and love your loves, and it gets more and more beautiful and more and more innocent. And then, suddenly, your hand is opening the gas canister--and you are swept up with all the fear that made you do it, the primitive tribalism that you indulged to monstrous and distorted proportions. You feel sick with a filthy disease, you feel agonizingly ugly, as you kneel at the feet of those you destroyed. And they see you, utterly, as you are. They glow with compassion for you, but their compassion causes you the most terrible anguish because of what it makes you see, and you fall back from ecstasy. You cannot bear to be seen or to see the glory around you, which seems to you like a searing fire, so you turn inward, shielding yourself as a man would shield himself from the burning sun. But you cannot escape. For you, the fire of ecstasy is the fire of agony.

NO GOD WILL EVER JUDGE YOU!! YOU JUDGE YOURSELF!!!

<blockquote data-quote="The Maxx" data-source="post: 3584183" data-attributes="member: 15907">If you think all I&#039;ve done is contradict myself, then you CLEARLY have NO comprehension of what I&#039;ve said. Did you even read what I wrote? Or was it too threatening to your long-held and cherished beliefs? Read it OBJECTIVELY!!!!!!!!!! NOT WITH YOUR BELIEF FILTERS!!!!!We don&#039;t agree because you have a vested interest in hanging on to the bible with two hands. You&#039;ve invested way too much time and energy to give it up now. To do so would be to admit you may have wasted a lot of time on mythology you do not truly understand.I will say this about the bible and then bounce off what could have been a productive conversation if you were willing to learn the new ideas I&#039;ve presented----not BELIEVE them, mind you, because BELIEF IS ALWAYS A LIE. Question EVERYTHING!People who believe in the bible are much like people who believe in government. They go down with the ship to the bitter end rather than attempt to find new concepts. They sit in their cars screaming at the radio as boring ass NPR preens on, or turn purple with useless anger listening to the conservative station. They attend political rallies for evil men who want power and control (like the clergy) , they throw their money away trying to get the least evolved into office to tell them how to live, and what rules they should follow. So sad, so sad . . .&nbsp; You don&#039;t even have a comment on what I said happened to some of the N A Z I S ??? You&#039;re not even remotely curious at all how I know that? Did you even read it and ATTEMPT to understand? Or did you just see a lot of words and go &quot;screw this guy, let&#039;s just focus on what I perceive to be contradictions and move on to simpler things&quot;. I&#039;m not trying to get you to throw away your boring bible: I am attempting to show you the actual story is so much more complex, and it is in your extreme arrogance that you think you have it all figured it out. I only have questions and ideas, NOT BELIEFS. The minute you truly believe something is the minute you shut yourself down to the immensity of the totality of Being that exists all around you. You limit yourself with beliefs. In effect, you lock yourself in a tiny room labeled BELIEF.And the BELIEF room of yours has no windows or doors. There is a crack, though, and if you have the strength to expand your IDEAS, not BLIND BELIEF, you can slip through that crack in that tiny room and participate in the Creation with the rest of us.Or you can just open your bible to page ten thousand and seventy and read a looooong list of people who beget people and forget about The Maxx and his crazy IDEAS.And for those who hate reading long posts, I offer my N A Z I story again:For example, would you like to know what happened to some of the N A Z I S ????? I will tell you: It takes great courage to enter an elemental body, because you are putting yourself in a position where the weakest part of you may imprint your energetic body eternally. Sin is that which bars us from ecstasy. How does sin actually feel? At first, after you die, you begin to taste of the most exquisite pleasure. It is extremely intimate, extremely personal, and as it builds, you begin to live in more and more of your lives. You taste the food, smell the air, you kiss your kisses and love your loves, and it gets more and more beautiful and more and more innocent. And then, suddenly, your hand is opening the gas canister--and you are swept up with all the fear that made you do it, the primitive tribalism that you indulged to monstrous and distorted proportions. You feel sick with a filthy disease, you feel agonizingly ugly, as you kneel at the feet of those you destroyed. And they see you, utterly, as you are. They glow with compassion for you, but their compassion causes you the most terrible anguish because of what it makes you see, and you fall back from ecstasy. You cannot bear to be seen or to see the glory around you, which seems to you like a searing fire, so you turn inward, shielding yourself as a man would shield himself from the burning sun. But you cannot escape. For you, the fire of ecstasy is the fire of agony.NO GOD WILL EVER JUDGE YOU!! YOU JUDGE YOURSELF!!!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="The Maxx, post: 3584183, member: 15907"] If you think all I've done is contradict myself, then you [b]CLEARLY[/b] have NO comprehension of what I've said. Did you even read what I wrote? Or was it too threatening to your long-held and cherished beliefs? [size=6][b]Read it OBJECTIVELY!!!!!!!!!! NOT WITH YOUR BELIEF FILTERS!!!!![/b][/size] We don't agree because you have a [b]vested interest[/b] in hanging on to the bible with two hands. You've invested way too much time and energy to give it up now. To do so would be to admit you may have wasted a lot of time on mythology you do not truly understand. I will say this about the bible and then bounce off what could have been a productive conversation if you were willing to learn the new ideas I've presented----not BELIEVE them, mind you, because [b]BELIEF IS ALWAYS A LIE. Question EVERYTHING![/b] People who believe in the bible are much like people who believe in government. They go down with the ship to the bitter end rather than attempt to find new concepts. They sit in their cars screaming at the radio as boring ass NPR preens on, or turn purple with useless anger listening to the conservative station. They attend political rallies for evil men who want power and control (like the clergy) , they throw their money away trying to get the [size=6][b]least evolved[/b][/size] into office to tell them how to live, and what rules they should follow. So sad, so sad . . . You don't even have a comment on what I said happened to some of the N A Z I S ??? You're not even remotely curious at all how I know that? Did you even read it and ATTEMPT to understand? Or did you just see a lot of words and go [size=6][b]"screw this guy, let's just focus on what I perceive to be contradictions and move on to simpler things"[/b][/size]. I'm not trying to get you to throw away your boring bible: I am attempting to show you the actual story is so much more complex, and it is in your extreme arrogance that you think you have it all figured it out. I only have questions and ideas, [size=6][b]NOT BELIEFS[/b][/size]. The minute you truly believe something is the minute you shut yourself down to the immensity of the totality of Being that exists all around you. You limit yourself with beliefs. In effect, you lock yourself in a tiny room labeled [size=7][b]BELIEF[/b][/size]. And the BELIEF room of yours has no windows or doors. There is a crack, though, and if you have the strength to [size=6][b]expand your IDEAS, not BLIND BELIEF[/b][/size], you can slip through that crack in that tiny room and participate in the Creation with the rest of us. Or you can just open your bible to page ten thousand and seventy and read a looooong list of people who beget people and forget about The Maxx and his crazy [size=9][b]IDEAS[/b][/size]. And for those who hate reading long posts, I offer my N A Z I story again: [b]For example, would you like to know what happened to some of the N A Z I S ????? I will tell you: It takes great courage to enter an elemental body, because you are putting yourself in a position where the weakest part of you may imprint your energetic body eternally. Sin is that which bars us from ecstasy. How does sin actually feel? At first, after you die, you begin to taste of the most exquisite pleasure. It is extremely intimate, extremely personal, and as it builds, you begin to live in more and more of your lives. You taste the food, smell the air, you kiss your kisses and love your loves, and it gets more and more beautiful and more and more innocent. And then, suddenly, your hand is opening the gas canister--and you are swept up with all the fear that made you do it, the primitive tribalism that you indulged to monstrous and distorted proportions. You feel sick with a filthy disease, you feel agonizingly ugly, as you kneel at the feet of those you destroyed. And they see you, utterly, as you are. They glow with compassion for you, but their compassion causes you the most terrible anguish because of what it makes you see, and you fall back from ecstasy. You cannot bear to be seen or to see the glory around you, which seems to you like a searing fire, so you turn inward, shielding yourself as a man would shield himself from the burning sun. But you cannot escape. For you, the fire of ecstasy is the fire of agony.[/b] [size=9][b]NO GOD WILL EVER JUDGE YOU!! YOU JUDGE YOURSELF!!![/b][/size] [/QUOTE]