incredible... but is it a breakthrough?

[mspong1]

Since i learned to extract spice a few months ago ive "blasted off" (or so i think) a handful of times.. i usually load about 40-50 mgs in my glass oil rig and havent once been able to get more then two hits in before im gone. But i dont feel like im really gone gone if you know what i mean?? I have still yet to see entities, or actually mentally go to another place..

ive been prsented with brilliant vortexes when my eyes are closed but have never been able to enter them, even though i can feel the pull, just an intense energy that feels as if its pulling my soul out of my body and into the vortex but it just never actually goes.. the room (and whole world for that matterr) seem to turn into this endless, brilliantly colored sort of horizontal microchip computer screen of the most intense pulsing, vibrating, buzzing energy that seems to be coming from everything in the area.. and i mean everything; dogs, fridges, fish tanks and especially other people. Ive even had experiences where massive spinning cylinders ( that oddly resembled a volcano) have erupted from the floor, spilling out geometric shapes of every
color imaginable.

My journeys are filled with energies, colors, shapes, patterns, and countless other intense visuals that are so profound that i cant even begin to describe them, ive just never actually left the world and went somewhere. No angels or aliens or or spiritual conversations. with entities. Basically Ive never actully been in hyperspace, or so i believe.. i just want to know whether or not my interpretation of what breaking through really is is off or if there is really something on the other side of that vortex. any insight on this?? Or maybe similar experiences? Im just kind of lost here..

 

[mescaline-man]

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[Global]

Since i learned to extract spice a few months ago ive "blasted off" (or so i think) a handful of times.. i usually load about 40-50 mgs in my glass oil rig and havent once been able to get more then two hits in before im gone. But i dont feel like im really gone gone if you know what i mean?? I have still yet to see entities, or actually mentally go to another place..

ive been prsented with brilliant vortexes when my eyes are closed but have never been able to enter them, even though i can feel the pull, just an intense energy that feels as if its pulling my soul out of my body and into the vortex but it just never actually goes.. the room (and whole world for that matterr) seem to turn into this endless, brilliantly colored sort of horizontal microchip computer screen of the most intense pulsing, vibrating, buzzing energy that seems to be coming from everything in the area.. and i mean everything; dogs, fridges, fish tanks and especially other people. Ive even had experiences where massive spinning cylinders ( that oddly resembled a volcano) have erupted from the floor, spilling out geometric shapes of every
color imaginable.

My journeys are filled with energies, colors, shapes, patterns, and countless other intense visuals that are so profound that i cant even begin to describe them, ive just never actually left the world and went somewhere. No angels or aliens or or spiritual conversations. with entities. Basically Ive never actully been in hyperspace, or so i believe.. i just want to know whether or not my interpretation of what breaking through really is is off or if there is really something on the other side of that vortex. any insight on this?? Or maybe similar experiences? Im just kind of lost here..

Those voids, energies, colors and all that are part and parcel of hyperspace. I end up with experiences like these all the time, and while they do have their own benefit and purpose, it is the more advanced visions that are more spectacular and satisfying. You needn't necessarily breakthrough in order to see different rooms or places or entities and the like. Break throughs from the way I understand them as per my experiences are of a completely different nature. They are explosive, and beyond grandiose.

I wouldn't feel too deterred. Everyone will break through at different times. It took me a few months of doing it extremely often to finally have my first break through, and man was it worth the wait. Others will do it on their first or second shot. Also every vision, be it at the low-end of the experience spectrum or not, can have its useful purpose, even if you're not really aware of it. For a lot of those who break through very early on, without much sub-breakthrough experiences, when presented with the extremely powerful experience that is the breakthrough, they find themselves unable to handle or adjust to what's going on. All of those sub-breakthrough experiences you're having are priming you in a way. You're acclimating to hyperspace so that hopefully when a breakthrough comes knocking on your door, you don't curl up in utter resistance to the experience and you can just let it show you the time not of life.

 

[DeMenTed]

smoalk moar

 

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Since i learned to extract spice a few months ago ive "blasted off" (or so i think) a handful of times.. i usually load about 40-50 mgs in my glass oil rig and havent once been able to get more then two hits in before im gone. But i dont feel like im really gone gone if you know what i mean?? I have still yet to see entities, or actually mentally go to another place..

ive been prsented with brilliant vortexes when my eyes are closed but have never been able to enter them, even though i can feel the pull, just an intense energy that feels as if its pulling my soul out of my body and into the vortex but it just never actually goes.. the room (and whole world for that matterr) seem to turn into this endless, brilliantly colored sort of horizontal microchip computer screen of the most intense pulsing, vibrating, buzzing energy that seems to be coming from everything in the area.. and i mean everything; dogs, fridges, fish tanks and especially other people. Ive even had experiences where massive spinning cylinders ( that oddly resembled a volcano) have erupted from the floor, spilling out geometric shapes of every
color imaginable.

My journeys are filled with energies, colors, shapes, patterns, and countless other intense visuals that are so profound that i cant even begin to describe them, ive just never actually left the world and went somewhere. No angels or aliens or or spiritual conversations. with entities. Basically Ive never actully been in hyperspace, or so i believe.. i just want to know whether or not my interpretation of what breaking through really is is off or if there is really something on the other side of that vortex. any insight on this?? Or maybe similar experiences? Im just kind of lost here..

Smoke more. Either bigger hits for those 2 hits, or take acouple more hits. Don't be afraid to take another big hit or two even when things are quickly dissolving before your eyes. Even if you can, have a trusted person help hold the pipe for you and light so you won't have to hold anything as your going on those last few tokes.

Usually when I smoke out of my bowl, by the 2nd hit things are quickly dissolving and the pull is STRONG...and that's when I take one more huge hit..then I quickly set the pipe down.

Ohh yeah, I would look into making some 1:1 infused herb or changa (changa is essentially infused herb with extracted harmalas infused into it also). heres the WIKI link...just click on the dmt handbook and near the end of the handbook there's a real nice pictorial section on making enhanced leaf/etc. WIKI

* When you click on the nexus dmt handbook it'll be section 14.1 under "leaf enhancement". Trust me when I say....enhanced leaf/changa is essentially fool proof, just light it and go. it's VERY easy to make and well worth your time.

 

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And don't worry about thee ol' famous "BrEaKThrOuGH" Trust me...a STRONG breakthrough is pretty much nothing like the rest. It comes on VERY fast..VERY HARD...and well..there will be NOTHING whatsoever of you nor reality left to question. There will be no questioning at that point...there'll just be awareness, and something that will be impossible for you to prepare for. You won't even think what you just smoked was dmt...trust me.

Happy travels :thumb_up:

 

[astralspice]

hey bud! If it's entity's that your after, try listening to some shpongle or something similar. It works for me even on small the small bowls of 'enchanted herb' I will usually vision some kinda freaky tribal jungle monkey type guys hammering on hand drums. Although at these smaller doses it feels more of an imagination entity than the so called ''real'' ones. Also if your having trouble with FB mayby try making a batch of enhanced leaf...it's wonderful in alot of ways:roll:

 

[ItzJustMe]

I totally agree with Tattvamasi! I actually had my first breakthrough experience last night. I thought I had broken through before and I even posted a trip report here about it because it was so wonderfully spectacular. However, what I experienced last night knocked the socks off of any psychedelic experience I've EVER had. During the trip I laughed from the core of my being. I kept ascending to higher levels on some kind of hyperdimensional soul elevator where each "floor" was progressively more astonishing than the last. I saw truly impossible and indescribable things! When I came back to reality there were tears on my face. I couldn't believe what happened. I'm so happy today. I feel like my life has been changed.

 

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Right on ItzJustMe. :thumb_up: Now you've seen the side that not too many see imho.

"Hyperdimensional soul elevator" is a perfect way to describe the brunt of it.

It's also funny Jamie described getting blasted through a "Grid of skulls" at one point in his smoked journeys.

My strongest experience to date was several months ago where i took a high dose in a bong, took it all in one hit and held it. In a matter of only a few seconds I was completely gone. COMPLETELY. I LITERALLY COULDN'T OPEN MY EYES...until the last few minutes of the experience. Intense is a complete understatement in the face of what I had experienced.

All I remember was that I was being blasted through infinite levels. Each level was completely different and SOOO bright! I'd been smoking changa since 09 and I thought I had "known" what a breakthrough was...hahah..nopee. The harmalas in the changa did absolutely nothing in terms of slowing down the experience. It was so fast...so rapid...but yet it still lasted about 15 minutes. (I had a timer handy from the time I took the hit)

 

[arcanum]

Sounds wonderful to me. But if you wanted more "meaning" from the experience why don't you try a hefty dose of Pharmahuasca or Ayahuasca? With that you can undertake "The journey" ( research your own safe dose, i said hefty simply because it sounds like you could handle it)

 

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It's really personal preference. Some people have very sacred, meaningful sessions if done in an optimal set & setting on smoked. Intention really does have alot to do with it.

For instance, I've done pharma many'a times, only a handful were "earth shattering" while most were gentle. I've also done ayahuasca in high and low amounts, and brought alot back from those experience....personal revelations of sorts. But for "me", smoked changa sessions are my thing. I take little tid bits back each time I take the plunge. I tend to weigh on the side of changa.

The point I'm trying to make is..you can have meaning-filled experiences either way...whatever the method may be.

 

[ItzJustMe]

My breakthrough experience last night was outside on my lawn at about 1:30am laying on a blanket. I had read reports saying that DMT is best with some kind of lighting but the mood and weather was so nice last night and I didn't want to be couped up in the house. I was with a friend (actually a guy that I met on the internet who basically sent me the info and video link on how to extract DMT). This was our first time meeting in person. When I started going into the trip I told him (with my eyes open wider than they possibly had ever been) "This is Magical, this is MAGICAL". Everything was changing right before my eyes. The grass had a rainbow prism effect with all kinds of colors and his face looked so strange and alien...but familiar. Just as I was about to close my eyes I remembered that this had happened before. Exactly this moment...IT - HAD - HAPPENED - BEFORE. When I came out of the trip, I told my friend about this deja vu and he said he knew what I was talking about. We had done this many times before but we somehow forget about it. Are we living in some kind of loop? As spectacular as the whole trip was it still seemed like I had been in that hyperdimensional place before and had somehow forgotten about it. It was soooooooooo familiar and felt like home. Another thing about it is that I didn't feel judged. I only felt fully accepted despite my flaws and sins...and TOTALLY LOVED.

 

[arcanum]

It's really personal preference. Some people have very sacred, meaningful sessions if done in an optimal set & setting on smoked. Intention really does have alot to do with it.

For instance, I've done pharma many'a times, only a handful were "earth shattering" while most were gentle. I've also done ayahuasca in high and low amounts, and brought alot back from those experience....personal revelations of sorts. But for "me", smoked changa sessions are my thing. I take little tid bits back each time I take the plunge. I tend to weigh on the side of changa.

The point I'm trying to make is..you can have meaning-filled experiences either way...whatever the method may be.

Sure I agree, only the Pharma/Ayahuasca trips I can remember nearly everything, and all meaningful experience in life (to me) is based on recollection. The freebase sessions I can only retrieve 20-30% and there's "stoner" aspect to it that I'm begining to dislike, even though I keep doing it nevertheless!

I gave up on changa, I think my technique was off, as it was too abrasive on the lungs.

 

[mspong1]

Thanks for the info.. ill definatley give the shpongle a try, divine moments of truth seems like it could send you running across an african plain with a heard of zebras or some shit.. hahah but i know that i need a better smoking device but the oil rig is all this guy can afford at the momemt so im jyst going to have to make it work.. im guessing just heavier doses and a more relaxed meditative area ( maybe a dim room with quit music, or maybe out in the woods or a field?) Is probably going to be the key to a real, meaningful spiritual breakthrough? Is it easy to build up a tolerance to spice, is so that may be my issue..

 

[Global]

Tolerance isn't likely your issue.

 

[mescaline-man]

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