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Intense is not the word (first time experience)

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Frank N. Stein
Ok, so my cat ended up with about .4g of pretty white fluffy powder from 3 pulls of 100g MHRB from Noman tek last night, let it dry overnight and all day today and then gave it to me. I spend the day thinking about whether or not to try it and building up the courage to do it (actually I've been building up the courage to do it for about four years now). So I get home from work, clean the litter box and, on impulse, decide to try it.

I mix the tiniest little bit in a short bong sandwiched between some parsley. Relax myself in my robe on my favorite reading chair in the bedroom, it's dim and comfortable, I lock the cat out and keep a garbage pail next to me just in case I vomit (I've read about this happening, so I figure, just in case). I turn the fan on to block out any distracting noises. I light the lighter, take a big hit and hold it. The first instant I'm thinking, "This isn't working." Then, bam, it hits me and I feel like I just smoked the craziest ganja Amsterdam has to offer. I close my eyes and see very dim patterns slightly pulsating on the edges of my closed eye vision. That's the extent and it wears off in about three minutes.

So I sit there a few minutes thinking about it and decide enough for the first time and I'll go take a shower, plus, the cat is scratching to get in.

As I walk to the bathroom, I think, "I've gone this far, let me try one more time, a little more, and see what happens." So I do the parsley thing again, but with more DMT this time, about three times as much as the first time. Still a very small amount though. I think, "This can't be enough to achieve what all the people on DMT Nexus speak of, it's just a step in that direction." Haha, little did I know.

So I go back to the bedroom, relax again in my chair, legs crossed in my meditation position and start deep breathing through my nose to calm myself, cause now I'm a little more nervous. I light the bong, take one big hit, hold it and put the bong down. I get the same effects as the first time and on impulse decide to take one more hit, cause the bowl isn't empty. So I do. And then, and then, the fan starts speeding up to a crazy speed, I think, "Huh, that's weird." I close my eyes and I literally feel like I'm shooting up somewhere at some un-fucking-believable speed, and then it's all pulsating kaleidoscopic patterns and it's so intense I think, "This isn't real, clam down, go with it, it'll be over soon" and I'm honestly not enjoying it, and I think again "I'm dumping that shit when this is over" and then that passes and I forget about it.

I'm in a sort of domed kaleidoscope room (I get the impression it's domed anyway, I didn't see a dome) and I move my head left and right and it's very fluid, like a well greased ball bearing slide on a high quality machine. Then I see a yellow and greenish giant caterpillar, just like those big green ones in the spring, it's on it's back and it's rolling up and opening over and over. On my right there is a little man (I think 'oompa loompa') but I can't see what he's doing.

Then it's over and I wake up and say out loud "Holy shit." It's leaves me feeling shaky, like after you do something really crazy or really stupid (hahaha) or like just after you almost die in a very close call. I laugh and I feel good. I text my wife to tell her and I take a shower.

The whole time I was conscious of my breathing, because I was slightly concerned with dieing or having a heart attack or something, but I felt my heart in the middle of it and my heart rate was only a little higher than normal and my breathing was deep and steady.

I won't dump it, but I won't do it again for a while. This shit is NO JOKE. Un-fucking real. My words really don't do the experience justice, it was, by very, very far, the most intense thing I've ever experienced. Thank you to the Nexus for the help in experiencing it.
 
Researcher said:
Then I see a yellow and greenish giant caterpillar, just like those big green ones in the spring, it's on it's back and it's rolling up and opening over and over. On my right there is a little man (I think 'oompa loompa') but I can't see what he's doing.
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hes tickling it in hopes that it will help shed its chrysalis of course....😉
 
hedcase said:
Spice deserves all the respect that you can give it.Do not dump anything my friend..
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I'm not going to, but that's the thought that popped into my head at the time, like damn, I shouldn't be fucking with this, it'd best to get rid of it. But no, I will not dump it.
 
soulfood said:
One word

Scales :)
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:) Yeah, I thought about that but I don't have a mg scale and I figured I'd use as small an amount as I could. I'll have to invest in a good scale before the next time.
 
Yes Researcher it is some profoundly powerful stuff. I liken it to a nuclear explosion. I am still trying to build the courage to smoke again because the last time it was too intense.
 
it's a very disorientating experience - and no matter how often you read about or study it, there's really no words that can fully communicate the intensity, the speed at which it happens and the depth of implicit meaning that you can only grasp at ... thanks for the post, Researcher. Safe travels
 
Yes, spice can get a little scary at times, don't mention it, it's been over two months now since i last smoked it, partially because i wanted to take a brake from all drug like stuff, including my daily cannabis ussage, but also because it can be scary.

My last trip was kinda overwhelming, i can only admire those true psychonauts that smoke spice more then twice a week, it takes balls of steel to throw yourself in the open fields of lunacy every time.
It's like stepping in the scariest rollercoaster of all time.

Ok, lunacy is disrespectful, but total madness comes along now and then, luckily true bliss comes by just as much, and that's what i look for, but you can't know where the launch will take you, it's possibilities are infinite.

I'm thinking of doing it again for 2 weeks now, and still i'm waiting for the "right" time, but i know well enough there simply is no right time, i just lack a bit of courage.
 
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That reminds of my first experience. I took 27mg thinking I would test the water and I got mild effects. I decided to basically double the dose and I was blown away into some other dimension.

There's definitely been times where I thought about dumping the spice and giving it up. Of course, knowing myself like I do, I save it regardless. I know that some day down the road I'll get the call and wish I had never thrown out the spice.

As crazy as this may sound, you do get used to the intensity of the spice. You're going to be awed and mystified without a doubt, but the sudden rushing effects become commonplace after a few uses. It took me about 4 - 5 doses to become decently accustomed to it. You'll learn to trust your body to breathe on it's own. It sounds like you've already got the right mentality to control the initial freak out that DMT can cause. Just telling yourself that it will be over soon and that you can't die from it.

Best of luck.
 
Hi Researcher,

This was a most excellent report. Thank you for such a well described sharing of your experience(s) and feelings about them. Obviously, they are resonanting quite nicely with many of us here.

The spice is deserving of respect. I am glad you are not throwing your supply out. There's a good chance it will call to you again . . .who knows what might await? At least now you have walked ankle deep into the waters, so to speak . . .

Also, I have noticed that a lot of Nexians seem to be cat people (though there are plenty of dog & other animal folks here too) so again there was a resonance. I don't lock my cat out as she has been a good tripping partner. But, I must say that everytime the mg scale comes out it's time for me to throw the clicky mouse, i.e. she brings her toy over to me and drops it in front of me as if she were a dog!

Speaking about scales. Here's a nice piece of equipment that you can get in hand (shipping included) for about $40. http://www.amazon.com/American-Weig...e=UTF8&s=sporting-goods&qid=1266075607&sr=8-1

I completely understand about needing time but the part of me that loved your writing hopes we have not heard the last about the spice voyages of the Researcher.

Peace & Love,
Pandora
 
Thank you all for the great replies. This board has been a big help in my years long journey to my first trip and I'm sure it will be helpful for a long time to come.
 
WOW. Give yourself plenty of time and with practice and accurate measurement you will find what works best for you.
 
Nice report researcher, I like the clarity and descriptions you give. I've taken to pharmuasca for this very reason,I dont like the launching aspect of smoking, about to post my report if your interested take a look
 
I'm in a sort of domed kaleidoscope room (I get the impression it's domed anyway, I didn't see a dome) and I move my head left and right and it's very fluid, like a well greased ball bearing slide on a high quality machine.
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From this I get the impression that you physically experienced yourself to be in a different place. Was that so?

I mean: all your senses (sight, hearing, smell, touch, balance) were "filled" with another reality? Like in a dream, but more real because you are awake?

If you touch something mental, can you feel it with your "hands"?
 
cellux said:
I'm in a sort of domed kaleidoscope room (I get the impression it's domed anyway, I didn't see a dome) and I move my head left and right and it's very fluid, like a well greased ball bearing slide on a high quality machine.
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From this I get the impression that you physically experienced yourself to be in a different place. Was that so?

I mean: all your senses (sight, hearing, smell, touch, balance) were "filled" with another reality? Like in a dream, but more real because you are awake?

If you touch something mental, can you feel it with your "hands"?
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Hmm, that's a good question. I'll think about that today and come up with a good way to answer.
 
cellux said:
I'm in a sort of domed kaleidoscope room (I get the impression it's domed anyway, I didn't see a dome) and I move my head left and right and it's very fluid, like a well greased ball bearing slide on a high quality machine.
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From this I get the impression that you physically experienced yourself to be in a different place. Was that so?

I mean: all your senses (sight, hearing, smell, touch, balance) were "filled" with another reality? Like in a dream, but more real because you are awake?

If you touch something mental, can you feel it with your "hands"?
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Ok, I've thought about this all day. I would not say I was physically "somewhere else", it's quite clear that I wasn't. The whole time (except for the initial 'lift off phase') I was subtly aware that I was sitting in my chair in my bedroom. At one point I remember consciously becoming aware of my breathing and even checking my heart rate with my hand.

As far as the domed room feeling, I think a more accurate description would be this:

I became aware that my head was in a domed room. But in a way that it was attached to my body yet separate. The best way to describe it would be to say that my head was in a box, the box being this domed room, and my body was beneath it (like those jokes where the guys head is in a gift box and his body is hidden underneath) in the "real world". My neck felt like a machine that can turn 180 degrees (side to side) very smoothly, like a high quality ball bearing, inside this box/room. Box is not the right word though, although if I were see this from the outside it would appear to me that I was sitting on the chair with a box on my head, inside the box felt like a huge place, with a vast area above my head and the impression that there was a dome somewhere up there enclosing it. The dome/room was covered in pulsating triangles of red, yellow and orange side by side. The sensation was similar to times when I meditate and feel a huge openness above me. That specific part felt quite real in the physical sense, as if from the neck up I was in another dimension.

As far as I can tell there were no senses active other than vision and touch/feel (but, of course, in reality me eyes were closed the whole time). I don't remember hearing anything. The ball bearing sensation felt quite real, as if my neck was actually a machine part. I don't remember being able to feel anything in that "dimension" with my hands.

So, did it feel physically real? Yes and no. Terrible answer, I know, but that's the only way to answer it. The part described above felt very real at that specific moment, but overall I would say it was a fuzzy reality, although the colors were quite bright and clear. Like a very vivid dream that at times feels like physical reality, but whose exact details remain fuzzy.
 
Thanks for the reply.

It would be nice to know how exactly this "stepping over to another world" thing works.

I also remember being in the room and in the inner world at the same time (not on DMT, but on LSD). If I remember correctly, I could switch between the two by focusing outward/inward. When focusing outward, that became real, when focusing inward, the other became real. Like turning a dial knob between here and there.

I had very interesting tactile hallucinations, I could touch emotions for instance. It seemed that the brain was projecting the ideas into the sense perceptions, so I could feel/touch/taste/see the idea that was currently in/on my mind.
 
How is it that the world is so messed up, but when on dmt everything makes perfect sense. Everything had a truth to it.

As far as the visuals. OMG time a million. It felt like swim saw geometry on a computer from the year 3000. Swim got thru the wall, and found out the truth. Humans are working on being beings of infinite knowledge. It has to be our goal, because why would we want to get smarter, and smarter. There is a heaven for us. Confirmed.
 
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