Intention

[Koornut]

Sphorange:

On the subject of intention and expectation. I very much enjoy the points you are making. You have helped me close the loop on a lot of topics i've been thinking about. I love how the universe works like that - we need each other to complete each other. If i exterminated every last human being on the planet save for myself i'd at the same time be committing suicide. And when I shot the last man, the bullet jumped in my brain too. And suddenly, that was the end of us, we, the human race - we failed to see each other in ourselves, and ourselves in each other. Welp! Maybe next time 'round guys! Bang!

whahhhhhh... whah-whah

I'm glad I could help you realise that you can't kill a thing that is already dead.

Anyway,

Outward intention : the force I'd personally identify as Intent, which I'm defining as the currency of energy. The greater your monies of energy, [Intent], the more likely you are setting yourself up for a case of what you will first call synchronicity but will then realize it is as if the universe simply handed it to you, and you're suprised it actually worked, and then you start seeing that whatever happens you will get always get exactly what you asked for, and all you've got to do in order to achieve whatever thing you can possibly imagine (can be positive or negative) is wish for it, yes, pray for it, imagine it in complete detail, remove all problems (which are mental blockages) that stand in the way of the manifestation in the world of the object of your Intent. I tell you; Intent is a force in the universe as equally real as gravity, whatever the hell THAT is.

Intent is a force in the universe, from the perspective of an individual in that universe.
When alone, intent is very much apart of ones personal relationship with the universe and as you pointed out can be an extremely potent kinetic force when applied to any context involving direct or indirect interaction with the universe.

However.
When together, as in 2 or more of us communicating; Intent is transformed into an even greater force, given the notion hixidom pointed out earlier that we are all the centres of our own universe. Intent becomes a force of the multiverse, able to be transported in the form of language (content) through the veil of personal one-ness and into the greater pool of the collective narrative of us-ness, finally reaching a conclusion at our own personal eschaton when we fall back into the realisation that us-ness and one-ness are the only possible states that exist, and they exist simultaneously. (I've been infected with the Buddhas virus lately :| )

This notion of content, that we all seem to throw our hands up in the air at when the linguistic version of cosmic microwave background radiation is reached and concepts become un-languageable. It's ironic.
It's ironic because we all seem to know of the same profound concepts within the bounds of our own personal relationship with the verse, but when it comes to the simple act of putting it all together in a neat little packet of content to share with others we are met with frustration and doubt (from within).

Which leads me to your very agreeable disagreement.

Inward expectation : the force that I would suggest is a 'form' of Intent. Because, if inward expectation can be imagined as a force which draws to it the attention of others, then when you actually have their attention, and there attention is on you, well, there attention on you is from their point of view - you guessed it, their intention. In this way then intention and attention are like yin and yang - they go together, and one can not exist without the other. Hence my earlier last man scene. Therefore, I must disagree with you on this point, that expectation cannot be observed by another. Just think, could I have expectation with intention? or intention without expectation? This is the special clue that they go together, because you can't have one without the other.

While I agree with you that they are inexplicable connected with each other and could quite possibly be two halves of the same whole, and I understand the reasoning which brought you to that conclusion. I can't help but think that expectation as a mechanism for plural communication, can only be specific to the individual doing the expecting.
This does not mean that it is unobservable.

If individual A shares content with individual B, with the intent of let's say; causing harm. Their expectation of the interaction (if they are feeling confident) is that they will cause harm to the other via the content.

Individual B is able to receive the content, and ascertain the intent based on the nature of it, coupled with their own expectation of what might happen going in to the interaction. But individual B cannot be privy to the entire expectation of individual A, only that which is communicated via the intent of the content. Which, in this example can be a considerable fraction of the expectation. But that can differ wildly, it's all in the context.

At this point in the day, I had an elaborate example written out to describe the previous paragraph involving a banana. But....I deleted it.
It served no purpose beyond mental masturbation (which I've already done enough of, chaffing is bad).
Old Buddha is at it again. :?

Anyhow, "where did the (4+) intention really go?"
Who knows, but one thing I am growing surer of every day,
is that thought is never lost in the same way that energy apparently is neither ever created or destroyed but only transformed and transferred. Thought is never lost. Intent is what powers that thought. Therefore, the effects of intent always have consequences. They may manifest in different ways. But until all blockages, that is to say, problems that we still keep mentally to ourselves, are solved, then there will be this continous cycling of thought impressions. As we think, so we will speak. And as we think, so we will eventually do.

:thumb_up:

 

[BundleflowerPower]

Hypothetically, three people are in a closed room. They each have an intention-potential; that is, a specific passive charge that upon interacting with the others in the room it becomes kinetic and may be passed around.
If person A has +10 potential, person B has +14 potential and person C has +6 potential - over time, do they reach equilibrium?
All of them at +10 and faithfully/simultaneously passing the required amount of potential between each other to keep a steady rhythm.
A gives B +5, B gives C +5, C gives A +5 etc.

Is there anyone present that has any experience doing this kind of working with energy (call it intention-potential)?
I would absolutely love to find out more about this kind of thing, if one would like to write about their experiences.
In big dimensions I think we do it everyday of our lives. However, I think we as culturally and ideologically programmed and programmable beings are asleep to it.
Those waking up to this seem incapable of not spreading the news to others,
because one cannot believe how human beings have not recognized even a mote of their power.
And all you want to do is help them step into their power, simply by recognizing what they've actually been doing all along.
The universe depends on you as much as you depend on the universe.

believe that anamesia, I'd say just connecting with others through energy spreads the news. And I'd say eventually everyone will know