Chea thats sorta what i'm running into. I know about zero when it comes to chemical extraction.  Everything I read on changa seemed to start with just that. I cannot find what I was reading, but its somewhere out there on the web. It was the aya vs. changa forum which led me to sign up to this forum.

I'll admit I probably scanned thru the post but I wasnt understanding it anyways and now Im reading more into it I seem to definitely be wrong.

   After a few more hours of reading, changa seems to be completely viable.  The DMT door seems to only have been cracked open. This site has an overwhelming amount of literature.  I just want to try and keep my learning curve level, and not get way out ahead of myself.