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"I am not addressing my beliefs vs. someone else’s beliefs, and I’m definitely not claiming that my beliefs are somehow superior to another’s beliefs."
No you are and not only that but you are stigmatizing and pathologizing anothers belief systems as SICK or ILL or wrong because it does not match your own. This post has nothing to do with mental illness and you have pushed it that direction because frankly I think people with beliefs you feel as inferior as threatening.

"If you can explain to me, in a rational and plausible way, how soaking in a tub of bicarbonate and visualizing golden orbs is more effective in casting out evil spirits from the body than an aluminum foil hat with a coat hanger energy deflector, then I will be willing and able to modify my beliefs about how our physical world actually works."

I could but I would have to using the belief system of others as wellas the rational system of other belief systems on how the world actually works that will probably not match your own. There are lots of world views on how the world actually works and that of western societies only one of MANY, and its not the only one, nor is yours the only one. The above method of cleansing you mock is no different then that of what I shaman in the amazon would recommend to some one. But because its not a shaman from the amazon... we should make fun of that person and not respect them? like I said charming....

"I agree that a nice bath with sea salt might be calming, but the advice given was not given as a prescription for achieving calmness. It was given as a prescription for “protection from outside influences of any sort”.

Sea salt and salt bath limpias or cleansing baths have been and are used in south and latin american cleansing ceremonies. The addition of salt has been used to clear people of negative "energies" as well as entities for a very long time, and is also a practice that has come over from africa as well as europe. Salt is considered pure, and white and protecting. In western occult practices circles of protection where made of salt. In house cleansing rituals in europe salt is thrown on the floor and swept from the house, then the house is cleared like an erased hard drive.

I believe that you are being culturally intolerant. , and insensitive to other peoples beliefs and that you are essentially telling them that they are crazy because they dont believe the world works the same way you do. You know Christians do the same thing...

<blockquote data-quote="Dorge" data-source="post: 3368118" data-attributes="member: 1328">&quot;I am not addressing my beliefs vs. someone else’s beliefs, and I’m definitely not claiming that my beliefs are somehow superior to another’s beliefs.&quot;No you are and not only that but you are stigmatizing and pathologizing anothers belief systems as SICK or ILL or wrong because it does not match your own. This post has nothing to do with mental illness and you have pushed it that direction because frankly I think people with beliefs you feel as inferior as threatening.&quot;If you can explain to me, in a rational and plausible way, how soaking in a tub of bicarbonate and visualizing golden orbs is more effective in casting out evil spirits from the body than an aluminum foil hat with a coat hanger energy deflector, then I will be willing and able to modify my beliefs about how our physical world actually works.&quot;I could but I would have to using the belief system of others as wellas the rational system of other belief systems on how the world actually works that will probably not match your own. There are lots of world views on how the world actually works and that of western societies only one of MANY, and its not the only one, nor is yours the only one. The above&nbsp; method of cleansing you mock is no different then that of what I shaman in the amazon would recommend to some one. But because its not a shaman from the amazon... we should make fun of that person and not respect them? like I said charming....&quot;I agree that a nice bath with sea salt might be calming, but the advice given was not given as a prescription for achieving calmness. It was given as a prescription for “protection from outside influences of any sort”.Sea salt and salt bath limpias or cleansing baths have been and are used in south and latin american cleansing ceremonies. The addition of salt has been used to clear people of negative &quot;energies&quot; as well as entities for a very long time, and is also a practice that has come over from africa as well as europe. Salt is considered pure, and white and protecting. In western occult practices circles of protection where made of salt. In house cleansing rituals in europe salt is thrown on the floor and swept from the house, then the house is cleared like an erased hard drive. I believe that you are being culturally intolerant. , and insensitive to other peoples beliefs and that you are essentially telling them that they are crazy because they dont believe the world works the same way you do. You know Christians do the same thing...</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Dorge, post: 3368118, member: 1328"] "I am not addressing my beliefs vs. someone else’s beliefs, and I’m definitely not claiming that my beliefs are somehow superior to another’s beliefs." No you are and not only that but you are stigmatizing and pathologizing anothers belief systems as SICK or ILL or wrong because it does not match your own. This post has nothing to do with mental illness and you have pushed it that direction because frankly I think people with beliefs you feel as inferior as threatening. "If you can explain to me, in a rational and plausible way, how soaking in a tub of bicarbonate and visualizing golden orbs is more effective in casting out evil spirits from the body than an aluminum foil hat with a coat hanger energy deflector, then I will be willing and able to modify my beliefs about how our physical world actually works." I could but I would have to using the belief system of others as wellas the rational system of other belief systems on how the world actually works that will probably not match your own. There are lots of world views on how the world actually works and that of western societies only one of MANY, and its not the only one, nor is yours the only one. The above method of cleansing you mock is no different then that of what I shaman in the amazon would recommend to some one. But because its not a shaman from the amazon... we should make fun of that person and not respect them? like I said charming.... "I agree that a nice bath with sea salt might be calming, but the advice given was not given as a prescription for achieving calmness. It was given as a prescription for “protection from outside influences of any sort”. Sea salt and salt bath limpias or cleansing baths have been and are used in south and latin american cleansing ceremonies. The addition of salt has been used to clear people of negative "energies" as well as entities for a very long time, and is also a practice that has come over from africa as well as europe. Salt is considered pure, and white and protecting. In western occult practices circles of protection where made of salt. In house cleansing rituals in europe salt is thrown on the floor and swept from the house, then the house is cleared like an erased hard drive. I believe that you are being culturally intolerant. , and insensitive to other peoples beliefs and that you are essentially telling them that they are crazy because they dont believe the world works the same way you do. You know Christians do the same thing... [/QUOTE]