Kambogahuascanga
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Is Iboga endangered in Gabon?
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Very good news if this is true. Thank you very much for the information.
ICEERS Foundation
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Hi,
We have been in touch over the last year with someone of the Foundation of the first lady of Gabon, Yann Guignon, Tatayo of Ebando, a few Bwiti-ists from the US who have been in Gabon many times, and also Uwe Maas, our ex-president who has been in Gabon many times returned there about half a year ago.
What is clear is that this is very complex matter. Yann Guignon worked for the foundation of the first lady working on a report on the current status of Iboga in Gabon, and his conclusions are that a lot of iboga that is so called from Cameroon actually comes from Gabon and is illegally exported. We heard from several people, including Tatayo that prices have gone up in Gabon of iboga, which is problematic for the local Bwiti-ists, and there has indeed been some conflict around this with Western vendors, etc.
The Gabonese government hasn't come up with any concrete proposition yet based on the report, nor with an official presentation of the facts... so it is difficult at this point to have a complete overview on the situation.
Our foundation has been spreading consciousness about the delicate situation in Gabon, because there are some facts to take into account:
1. Iboga is cultural heritage of Gabon and its exportation is illegal. So there is no regulation for exportation of Iboga
2. Iboga is after Costa Rica the country that has best reserved its natural resources.
3. The demand for Iboga is growing as its use is growing
4. There is a lot of corruption and poverty in Gabon and its neighboring countries, making any form of trade attractive, being it ethical or not.
The lack of regulation of exportation of iboga resources (e.g. Fair Trade label) in combination with the other facts makes the situation very delicate and consciousness about this is important to gain before things get really disastererous... Meanwhile the only available IbogaineHCL made under GMP (Good Manufacturing Practice) conditions is made from Voacanga Africana, a very fast growing plant that contains Voacangines, which is then converted into Ibogaine... Initiatives for cultivating Tabernanthe Iboga in other parts of the world are also appearing... It is clear that clear regulations are needed to protect the Gabonese natural parks, botanical resources and the Bwiti practitioners while responding to the growing demand for good quality Iboga and Ibogaine.
Best Wishes,
ICEERS Foundation
www.iceers.org
We have been in touch over the last year with someone of the Foundation of the first lady of Gabon, Yann Guignon, Tatayo of Ebando, a few Bwiti-ists from the US who have been in Gabon many times, and also Uwe Maas, our ex-president who has been in Gabon many times returned there about half a year ago.
What is clear is that this is very complex matter. Yann Guignon worked for the foundation of the first lady working on a report on the current status of Iboga in Gabon, and his conclusions are that a lot of iboga that is so called from Cameroon actually comes from Gabon and is illegally exported. We heard from several people, including Tatayo that prices have gone up in Gabon of iboga, which is problematic for the local Bwiti-ists, and there has indeed been some conflict around this with Western vendors, etc.
The Gabonese government hasn't come up with any concrete proposition yet based on the report, nor with an official presentation of the facts... so it is difficult at this point to have a complete overview on the situation.
Our foundation has been spreading consciousness about the delicate situation in Gabon, because there are some facts to take into account:
1. Iboga is cultural heritage of Gabon and its exportation is illegal. So there is no regulation for exportation of Iboga
2. Iboga is after Costa Rica the country that has best reserved its natural resources.
3. The demand for Iboga is growing as its use is growing
4. There is a lot of corruption and poverty in Gabon and its neighboring countries, making any form of trade attractive, being it ethical or not.
The lack of regulation of exportation of iboga resources (e.g. Fair Trade label) in combination with the other facts makes the situation very delicate and consciousness about this is important to gain before things get really disastererous... Meanwhile the only available IbogaineHCL made under GMP (Good Manufacturing Practice) conditions is made from Voacanga Africana, a very fast growing plant that contains Voacangines, which is then converted into Ibogaine... Initiatives for cultivating Tabernanthe Iboga in other parts of the world are also appearing... It is clear that clear regulations are needed to protect the Gabonese natural parks, botanical resources and the Bwiti practitioners while responding to the growing demand for good quality Iboga and Ibogaine.
Best Wishes,
ICEERS Foundation
www.iceers.org
Kambogahuascanga
Rising Star
Missed this...
I agree with what you said. At the same time I feel possibly that their would be the incentive for Tatayo and Yann who are both in to the 'initiation business' to make it a basic monopoly that ones would have to be initiated in Gabon to have the sacrament. Granted I have only one contact in Gabon and so far I trust him. He continues to state that there are many Iboga plantations in Gabon and that there is so much that grows in the forests that there is practically no end in sight in this vast range.
Note currently Yann is in some deep waters in France where they are trying to take away his children for practicing Bwiti in Gabon. My prayers go out to him and his family.
I side with no one on this and am keeping an open mind.
We have similar dreams, let them find reality!
I agree with what you said. At the same time I feel possibly that their would be the incentive for Tatayo and Yann who are both in to the 'initiation business' to make it a basic monopoly that ones would have to be initiated in Gabon to have the sacrament. Granted I have only one contact in Gabon and so far I trust him. He continues to state that there are many Iboga plantations in Gabon and that there is so much that grows in the forests that there is practically no end in sight in this vast range.
Note currently Yann is in some deep waters in France where they are trying to take away his children for practicing Bwiti in Gabon. My prayers go out to him and his family.
I side with no one on this and am keeping an open mind.
We have similar dreams, let them find reality!
I know of one regular long term member here who has lived with the bwiti and gone through full bwiti innitiation. What they told me was that the situation there seemed like one of the west, and vendors taking advantage of the situation there..and so they dont support the whole online iboga vending thing and focus on growing plants instead.
I cant say anything here personally..but I would like to hear more from those who have been to Gabon and seen the situation first hand..if there even is anyone else on this site who has been to see the bwiti.
I cant say anything here personally..but I would like to hear more from those who have been to Gabon and seen the situation first hand..if there even is anyone else on this site who has been to see the bwiti.
Kambogahuascanga
Rising Star
It appears I was lied to by my 'Bwiti friend'. I feel really bad for being so gullible and ultimately smearing the names of very good people. Check Yann Guignon for current status as I believe he's the only one truly up to date in terms of expertise. Please forgive me.