Is there a difference between "Hyperspace" and a "trip"?

[MysticSpace]

Hiya Everyone,

I've been questioning certain aspects of what I have been reaing when it comes to DMT and hallucinogenic in general, more trying to prepare myself for the event of a bad experience, of which appears to be inevitable, however what exactly is a "bad experience"?

I've read over a couple of experience here on the Nexus and there are more positives than negitive experiences, however what this experience is exactly is the confusement.

When I hear "trip", I imagine it all to be within the users head whereas with a "hyperspace" experience, i imagine beign pulled away from my physical body -- So if this is the ase, is a bad experience when it coems to hyperspace, happen when you are taken to a dark place so to speak, how does meditating, relaxing your physical body alter the bad experience likelihood?

Best Regards,
Tim

 

[FranLover]

Hi When you have a bad trip on dmt its not about going to a bad place psychologically, at least not for me. Rather its the polar opposite of a succsesful dmt trip; a good dmt trip authenticates itself, is the ultimate, is oderly, is magical--a bad trip is disorder and chaos, and to a degree where no one can deal with it because there is no area in life where such disorder arises, for it is a disorder of some other dimension. There are 10,000 ways to suffer in the dark alleys of hyperspacial travel. The thing is all 10,000 are things you had never thought of, can never think of.

In my oppinion, bad trips are misfires--while that good trips are perfect keys fitting in the keyholes of the chemical brain.

A bad trip is a door only opened 1cm or a door smashed open like in some police raid, but a good trip is the adequate oppening of a door, so that you can go in, so that the door is not destroyed.

 

[MysticSpace]

Thank you for your reply FranLover.

There was a time when I taken a legalhigh substance which was meant to give the effects of cannabis. I added this substance into some home-made brownies I made and after eating one, I felt some effects but went on to eat another (they were quite big!).

I realised that I had too much so I went to lay down on my bed to see it though. The next moment I remember waking up and the best way I can describe it is that, well, I was throwing up and inbetween throwing up I was in a different dimension or as another being. I was, but I also was observing, a microorganism, then when my body was throwing up just that little more, I would come back slightly.

I would consider this to be a bad trip as it felt completely real, you are stripped from everything you previously thought to know, for this 'new' experience where that is reality and feels completely natural to you as if it is the only one you have ever known.

A trip to me is potentially all to do with your own brain, whereas I see hyperspace being outside of your physical body, so i am somewhat confused to as how calming your physical body can alter where you end up, unless this is completely random?

 

[Achilles]

A bad trip is a door only opened 1cm or a door smashed open like in some police raid, but a good trip is the adequate oppening of a door, so that you can go in, so that the door is not destroyed.

Listen to Franlover. Dmt isn’t just another recreational drug. It takes time to be able to comfortably experience dmt, technique as well.. know your limits and like working out a muscle over time of “training”(for lack of a better word) youll be able to more comfortably lift more weight (or in this case handle you trip with more grace)... if you decide to pursue these experiences then try to do so with respect and hopefully when the time comes dimitri will reciprocate by showing you respect. Good luck friend. The nexus is here if you ever need us.

Learn, share, expand

 

[MysticSpace]

Thank you for your reply Achilles. I am planning on taking a 10mg dose a couple of times to build up some comfort and go from there. I would really like to breakthrough eventually.

I am amazed and love how educated the Nexus community really is, this in itself is a real eye-opener!

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On another post I saw someone say that they rated someones post, however I cannot see this feature -- Is it full members only? I was looking at upvoting your reply with the other reply I have received.

 

[Achilles]

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[Achilles]

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[MysticSpace]

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I have watched this video including some of this others a dozen or so times now. I love his videos!

 

[Achilles]

Yea he hits the nail right on the head. Glad you’ve done your homework :thumb_up:

 

[MysticSpace]

Yea he hits the nail right on the head. Glad you’ve done your homework :thumb_up:

Well to be quite honest with you, I never thought I would ever be considering any hallucinogenics, but then GMT started being mentioned within particular videos I have an interest in and the more I have been reading up, the more it fascinates me.

You want to know that the car you are in has passed it's MOT before going on a road-trip, so the same can be said about inhaling alien substances to your body, it only feels natural to me to look into this and such an educated community I have come across!

 

[HyperJester]

I've smoked DMT around 30 times now.

Most of my trips are positive, however I've had a couple that were darker... the visuals get dark, and for some could be considered scary, what I found is I can get out of it simply by sitting up in a sitting position, tilting my head up towards the sky and lifting both my hands up to the air, but do it in a sense of giving love and awe and gratitude to the universal force.. it transforms the trip, usually into something more spiritual like, much brighter, and takes you out of that darkness.. Though I find myself comfortable with both places, I've never been scared on DMT, even when the visuals could be considered scary or chaotic.
You just keep calm and be still, and it changes and passes.. The other option is to smoke more, this is fine if you have an electronic Vape, I do extended sessions, where I keep taking more pulls every 4 or 5 minutes to keep in the state for much longer periods. Again if it's not going too well for you, take more... Again it pushes you through to a new area.

For reference, one of my earlier trips I felt complete utter sorrow and sadness and cried for 30 minutes.
If you have any unresolved emotional issues, it can come up and hit you full force on DMT, and it makes you deal with it and feel it fully and process it... I would suggest working on anything personal before committing to DMT so you're less likely to have that kind of experience.