Hey all, i’m lost on what the best tek is to this date, meaning easiest process/purest/highest yield. I’m just starting and landed on Vovin’s (50g RB) but got stuck on basification liquid amounts being confusing, or Marsifolds (450g RB), but i dont want to waste 450g of bark for a low yield. Both of those teks have inconsistencies with contradicting quantities of certain things and expected yields and just seem low or omitted altogether. Has anyone actually make a straight forward comprehensive tek for decent purity and high yields that explains everything properly?
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It’s 2025, what’s the best Tek?
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brokedownpalace10
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Rank beginner here, but the easiest is STB (and I am proof of that). It seems to work rather well for MHRB, anyway. And, as far as yield, if you just keep pulling and add a little more base and some heat, it seems to get it all. Please, someone who is more an expert chime in and confirm or deny. Other barks, especially ACRB, seem to have other gooey stuff in there and the STB works, but not nearly as well.
Why not do a STB on 20 grams? If it's good MHRB, that will definitely get you started and you do get better as you go at this.
Why not do a STB on 20 grams? If it's good MHRB, that will definitely get you started and you do get better as you go at this.
Memberberries
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"Best" is subjective. Teks are just recipes that people have put together in order to put principles into practice.
If you're truly concerned about maximizing yield, there's a really simple answer: familiarize yourself with the principles of extraction. No need to rush into things. Read and ask questions. Once you understand the what's and why's of what you're doing, you'll know the "best" tek.
Check out: DMT Extraction Overview. That should go a real long way in answering your question.
If you're truly concerned about maximizing yield, there's a really simple answer: familiarize yourself with the principles of extraction. No need to rush into things. Read and ask questions. Once you understand the what's and why's of what you're doing, you'll know the "best" tek.
Check out: DMT Extraction Overview. That should go a real long way in answering your question.
I reckon an STB followed by a mini A/B would prob be easiest as far as high purity/ease. I'm not really up to date on the teks.. but I'm sure something like CYB's tek followed by a mini-A/B would be a good mix of easy, high purity and high yielding.
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Yeah sodium carb wash helps clean it up a little.. back salting and re-extracting will generally result in a cleaner product. But if you do a thorough defat and a sodium carb wash before your freeze precipitate that’s also fine and should produce a pretty clean extract.
I found Cyb's Hybrid ATB Salt Tek to be simple and high-yielding. I also added 5 or 6 freeze/thaw cycles to the MHRB before mixing in the acid. I read about it in Cyb's MAx Ion Tek, and figured it couldn't hurt to add it to Cyb's original tek. It yielded 2% on my first extraction.
I haven't tried a sodium carbonate wash yet, but I should try it.
EmeraldAtomiser
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I'm pretty sure Void has run tests to see how the freeze thaw cycles affect the yield, and has found it to be negligent at best. Don't think he does it any more.
I have not been as meticulous in my testing, but didn't notice a meaningful increase, and after reading Void's results, I've stopped doing it too. Pretty time and energy consuming, and unless the increase is noticeable, I'm not sure there's a point, even if it might seem to make sense
I have not been as meticulous in my testing, but didn't notice a meaningful increase, and after reading Void's results, I've stopped doing it too. Pretty time and energy consuming, and unless the increase is noticeable, I'm not sure there's a point, even if it might seem to make sense
quantumtantra
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Lazyman's always worked fine here, trying to do some improvements on the tek, for me the best tek is always a cost/benefit equation because as u are a beginner u naturally are more newbie in chem so why to complicate when we have teks that can give us spice as simple as bake a cake.
I mean realistically if the material is dried and ground to a powder, the DMT is going to be liberated very quickly.. whether done so via addition of strong basic solution or boiled in acidic water. I don’t see that freeze thaw would make any difference to yield.. it might just knock off a couple minutes of boiling time/time needed to react with lye solution. If the material were not ground and was more fibrous then freeze thaw might help a little.
The fact that precipitates explode out of the solution and instantaneously indicates that it is liberated from the plant material very quickly..
The fact that precipitates explode out of the solution and instantaneously indicates that it is liberated from the plant material very quickly..
These sorts of things definitely don’t hurt to do but are really not necessary. Same deal with fussing over the acid used in an A/B.. boiling water is going to dissolve DMT salts so very quickly from dried powdered material.. the amount of acid used/choice of acid is unlikely to affect yield if you are doing 3 X 1hr boils. At most it might knock off a few minutes off boiling time. Of course making sure the solution is acidic in an A/B is important but beyond that I think some of these things are drastically overstated in terms of the final yield.
Following any tek like a cooking recipe IMO is very unlikely to produce identical results each time. Hence why there is no agreed upon best tek .. people use the same teks and often get varying results. Plants can change in chemical composition depending on seasonal/environmental factors at time of harvest.. quality of solvents/chemicals used. How long you let your soup react after adding base.. temperature of extraction during pulls.. how saturated your solvent is prior to putting in the freezer. Shape of vessel etc..
All of these things are possible explanatory variables in differing results. For this reason it’s best to get to know the basic chemistry behind extraction IMO rather than following a recipe. You can then better read what’s going on during the process and make informed/intuitive decisions to get the good results.
Following any tek like a cooking recipe IMO is very unlikely to produce identical results each time. Hence why there is no agreed upon best tek .. people use the same teks and often get varying results. Plants can change in chemical composition depending on seasonal/environmental factors at time of harvest.. quality of solvents/chemicals used. How long you let your soup react after adding base.. temperature of extraction during pulls.. how saturated your solvent is prior to putting in the freezer. Shape of vessel etc..
All of these things are possible explanatory variables in differing results. For this reason it’s best to get to know the basic chemistry behind extraction IMO rather than following a recipe. You can then better read what’s going on during the process and make informed/intuitive decisions to get the good results.
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Cyb’s looks like a good place to start, but water on a stove and hand mixing wasn’t sounding the most optimal. I’m more keen on a hot plate/magnetic stir since I already have one for mycology. Luckily theres a pretty thorough tek from Toshido on using one while mostly still following Cyb’s