Simon Jester said:
IV DMT is, look... just don't. The only benefit is when you need to spot-on nail an 80mg dose so you don't end up in the void for a literal eternity. Really... unless you are dosing so high that the same smoked dose is too unpredictable, just smoke it.
Plus, unless you're super-slick with a needle (And I mean so slick you can punch a two inch tunnel at 120mph on a bumpy road), just don't. DMT hits so quick and the launch is so gnarly that you REALLY DO risk hurting yourself, collapsing a vein, or even busting the needle off inside your arm.
Leave it to the pros... and even then, save the IV's for those epic Kholes.
Ummmm.... let's see, where to begin.... I guess I should start by saying that not everyone is like you and some people just don't like the smoking aspect. Its harsh, and for some of my personal friends who have asthma, its impossible for them to get anywhere. I'm honestly surprised that someone sporting a V avatar pic would sound so Reaganistic in response to someone asking a question. You can't just say, "nope, don't do it" or you are effectively putting the cookies on the top shelf, and as soon as you leave the house, the kids will be in it and eat so much they get sick.
Now instead of taking your position, with hands on ears going "lalalalalala, don't do it, its bad" you could take it upon yourself to inform peope of how it could be done as safely as possible. Most of us here have read Strassman's book and know that it can be done safely, I believe my post pretty much sums it up except I forgot to add that you should wash your final fumarates at least 3-4 times w/ cold ACE and re-x from water. Other than that if you can re-x until it is sparkling clear, with no color whatsoever, and convert to fumarate cleanly so that it is still colorless, I really see no harm.
The only good point you made, and I use the term good loosely, is that you should not try to give yourself the injection, rather you should have a trusted friend that you know can hit a vein do it for you. It does start hitting you immediately, so doing it by one's self does have a risk of injury. That being said, I seriously doubt that anhyone would burst a needle off in their vein, thats ridiculous. Jester, have you ever used this route of administration? To me it sounds like you've never used a syringe in your life, because I break the needles of my syringes after every use and I have to bend them back and forth 10+ times before they break, and you just can't do that with your veins. Syringe may fall underneath you and give you a boster shot to grow on, or you might cause a larger wound to open before the needle dislodges from your arm which can cause a bad infection, so yeah do steer clear of trying this venture out on your own. But if you are dead set on trying this, do so safely and with the utmost respect to the drug you are putting in your body. No other chemical will send you quite so far with so little an amount. so here's the pro's and con's
Pro's - Guaranteed breakthrough, less spice used, easier on the lungs
Con's - you need a nurse to administer, you have to get poked, it is much more intense on your body(you really have to remember to breath)
As you can see, its just as bad for you as smoked DMT, it is just a different route of administration. If done properly and safely, however, it can provide one of the most powerful experiences of your life. For some, this is 'bad, for others, 'good'. I'm not arguing the moral value of it, nor will I dignify the stigmatization of IV drug use, as it pertains to DMT, with a response. The fact is, IMO, this is one of the most efficient and effective ways to use the spice, and anyone that says it isn't just hasn't been there or hasn't done it properly. So as a recap, you can IV DMT safely if you:
1-Recrysatallize the spice several times, evaporating and examining the xtals for discoloration
2-Once free of color Recrystallize again, preferably with heptane, and freeze precip
3-FASA to convert to the Fumarate salt, finely powder, and wash 3-4 times with cold Acetone
4-Recrystallized the fumarates with a water evap to rid the product of the last remnants of solvents
5-Check for PH 6-7 before using, also make sure that there are no precipitates in the syringe that could cause an infection
and finally
6-Have a trusted friend, that knows how to administer a shot, give you the dose(no more than .4mg/kg of body weight)
Be safe with it and you will have a good time, be reckless and you could die or seriously hurt yourself. Don't take what I'm saying as meaning "everyone should go and shoot up DMT anytime they want to use it, as its the best/only way to go." Because I'm not. All the routes through which you can experience the spice have their own pros and cons. If you really want to experiment with this route, then follow this guide as he's has gone there before and has obviously lived to tell the tale. I could say, also, that I have let a few of my friends in on this as well. All were nervous, and all came out willing to try it again. Its not the best way to go, but it is no less safe than any other way, IF DONE SAFELY AND PROPERLY.
), then once more via freeze precipitation, then convert to fumarate via the FASA method. Take it easy at first, step it up 2., .3mg, then .4/kg of body weight. I wouldn't go over .4. Its a very powerful experience and you will begin feeling the effects long before you are done injecting, it is, therefore, advised that you have someone else administer the shot. Be careful, and yet again don't jump into the huasca shot. Having done IV DMT I can say that, personally, I would never dream of the harmalas being necessary, but to each their own, just be safe with what ever you do. Make sure you filter your shots well and it wouldn't hurt to test the PH of the shot first either.
