i should add that GC/MS from LC/MS could give a different result because the heat from the GC could make things degrade.

also i took closer look at those TLC results. well i think some of the claims being made about what spot is what may not be correct, the author himself points it out. maybe i'm missing something but spray reagents should be used when trying to get an idea about what compound is what if no reference is available. unfortunatly some spray reagents are rather toxic and i wouldnt recommend someone using them in their home!! he pointed out correctly however that all the red colors and stuff are probaly from tannins.

i think it can't be ruled out that some breakdown product of yuremamine could be in these extracts. LC-MS could shed some light on that. furthermore lets think about the stomach with its low pH. could be the case that oral M hostilis is not active from yuremamine but a breakdown product of that woo woo now that gets fun to figure out!

also i dont think people should underestimate the biological activity of tannins. although some in certain doses are healthy some are not. some make you puke you guts out. some don't.

also sorry about your friend radio...