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twinkletoes

twinkletoes

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So, I'm not sure if this is the right place to put this... or if it should even be here at all... but it's just something that I've been feeling lately.

For much of my life, when part of the dance scene, it seemed really easy to meet likeminded people. Now though, I'm getting a bit older (just turned 35), focusing more on other things, and am more or less over the party scene (though it is still in my heart, I'm not much of a partier anymore)...

The problem is, I now feel quite isolated... lacking a sense of community and likeminded people to connect with. I feel very alone in my little bubble, and don't really know where to find peeps who are on the same wavelength as me. One wouldn't think that I would have this problem - there are lots of interesting people in the region where I live... but it's a matter of finding them.

It's really great to have this board - it's a great community in and of itself - but somehow just isn't the same as having live, in person friends who are on the same wavelength (yes... violins please....)

Anyway, i feel better just having put that out there.

Love and abundance to all of us....
 
Well, probably something you've thought about yourself but what about going out to places for people your age? I'm sure other likeminded people who were once in the dance-scene will hangout there too.

I shifted from the alternative scene in my home town to a nice jazz place to hang around. Although it was/is a slow shift since I still visit the 'old' scene once in a while.
 
I find that DMT and the heavier psychedellics can be isolating.
Those with similar experience are few and far between and trying to give someone a similar experience results in - often as not - scaring the living shit out of someone.
Frustrating too, since if I were putting this much time and energy into such worthless empty pleasures as cocaine meth or smack, I'd be the most popular guy on the block.
But then I'd have to hang with coke meth smack heads. (insert vomit emoticon)
I dunno about finding places to go with people of one's own age.
I'm 42 and I hang with twenty somethings because people my own age are fuckin' boring.
Mortgages, kids, classic rock. (vomit emoticon again)
Plus, I'm finding that youth is truely wasted on the young.
Doing all that fun shit like going to shows and parties now that I know what I'm doing rather than just getting blindly fucked up when I go out is great.
 
I'm also 42 and know nobody interrested in psychedelics. Maybe there would be people around ready to explore but it's quite difficult to say people things like "hey what about a nice session with illegal and powerfull substance ?" :roll:
Youngest people experiment more to prove themselves that they can do it. Nothing wrong tough, but I'm involved in the exploration of consciousness rather than the exploration of my limits.

I guess we have to assume we are a very very small community in a world of repression (whine, whine) :cry:

From a darwinian point of view, there are few chances our 'specie' can grow as I doubt that we are the most 'procreative' people ;)
 
I guess I'm still young enough (26) to know people who are testing their limits or trying to prove themselves,
Hell thats probably what I'm doing right now, so I'm still hopeful that there are some likeminded individuals around here
But it is very isolating when you talk about these things and people are like WTF?

And I'm the only persone I'v ever met who's even heard of DMT ... Of course I spread the word as much as possible ;)
 
Well I've just had my 40th bday this week and still quite happy with the friends I have and the things I get up to... Most of my mates are also in their 20's or 30's as older people can get a bit boring. I still think lifes for living and always willing to try summat new... As for DMT, well no one I know has heard of it and I as well spread the word, but I guess it's not for everyone and yeah I've managed to frighten the shit out of a mate of mine... All good experience I still think... hehe...

Not found any peeps near me who are similar and enjoy the spice, well not yet anyway... Still, I'm happily enjoying that little bubble all on my tod just now!
 
I dream of this sometimes as well. I know people are out there, though if I put my discriminatory filters on, I'll be looking for a very select few that are likeminded in some basic ways, but will challenge in others.

Alas, the bell-curve of our mainstream is creates rather bizarre, mixed results. Obviously the drug war does not help, nor do oppressive social infrastructures. The fringe will give you plenty of random individuals, but will you be able to find and relate to the few self-actualized-in-mind, the stubborn, the focused, the adventurous? Then again, I've completely given up on popular society, so I guess I'm left with few options.
 
I am forty three all my friends I quit triping years ago. My saturday night is spent filtering or refluxing or researching ect...
I have boxes of note books full of my crude experements. So yes it can be isolating. To me it seems like a calling of sorts ever since I came across Shultzs Plants of the Gods in my freshmen year in high school I have been driven to learn more and experance the wonder and amazment these plants and fungi provide. I know I have a bit of the mid life crisis thing going. I think its about time for me to drop 20 grand for another motorcycle.

Happy four twenty to all:)
It is 4/20 here in the USA today

M.V.
 
Are we lonely .. or just a litte steeped in solitude..? We need to be still and in solitude to apprehend this experience - meditate.

You can use solitude, but loneliness is to be thrown out like something rancid. Solitiude can 'nourish' but it goes off if not eaten quick ... Make it a part of your diet, but not more than you need.

My discovery of this thing we have, the automatic 'enlightenment' of dmt, definately has forced me into the absolute 'loneliest' places just as a matter of course.

But that was obviously going to be that way - This was my umbilical cord to god - abolutely solitary to me, my secret, my punchline in the cosmic joke. I told all my friends, shared any dmt I could, but still find it an absolute solitary thing to 'know' so well.

But I am born on the Year of the Snake - 1965'er ... and had my third eye kick open at age 40 (Dec 2005) - maybe this is typical for males, we're slower than women at maturing.

So until I met anyone who could relate similar experience, I was 'stuck' all alone talking about it every day, thinking about 'It' ... almost every hour .. communing with It in every thought ... There is nothing to fear, God and perhaps 1000 angels are all on my side. I just have to be patient - and make choices with their guidance. How could I be 'alone' with more than 1000 angels hovering all day with me..!?
 
I danced my way from the dance scene and stumbled upon dmt. I thought when i was young that everything i was looking for i had found in the party scene (this was yrs ago of course before the tentacles of commercialism grabbed hold of it). But dmt was kind of like this big rock on my post dance scene path that i tripped over.
Ever since i have come across dmt i have been meeting people who are psychonauts already or people who are looking for something more who (through me) embrace dmt. Yes its a small community but thats the way it should remain for the time being.Remember the days when the dance scene was secretive? What happened to it when it came out of hiding? The world will have to change before we can bring our secret out to the rest of the world.
When kept a secret it seems to call in those people who are listening to the call of the divine. Thats why the club is so exclusive. Dmt picks its friends...
 
I feel the same way. I was also heavily involved in the dance scene in from the early 90s. I slowely progressed to a near sober lifestyle while replacing the drugs with djing and it seems over the last few years I have really been able to learn from everything I had been taught over the 10+ years of nothing but partying. I feel I was shown alot during that time and needed a clear head to put it all together. I have a great job and rarely get out so I, too, feel isolated from what was once so familiar. Everyone around me is in a different place in thier lives as well, but, they all just go to the bar and drink while I am seeking enlightenment once again. I will be doing my first extaction in the next month and am hoping to find the place that welcomed so many years ago, in my mind.
 
It's lonely at the top :)

Myspace? Quite good for meeting other alternative types (although really it's only members of the opposite sex in reality, then you can meet their friends too if you get on). Or look up old friends on Facebook? At 35 you're not too old for either, I'm sure, especially if you like hanging out with younger people. At the same time, just say yes to every opportunity you're presented with in 'real' life, because you never know who you'll bump into when you're out and about.

Hope things turn out for the better in time. I think people generally do become less social when they get older, they pair up and get on with paying the mortgage and looking after the kids.
 
i know what you're saying.. the deeper i venture into my self the farther i get from everyone else. friends get fewer because one starts to see that some people one hung out with aren't "real" friends. when it comes down to having a really nice conversation i know about 4 or 5 people whom i can do this with. i stopped partying at age 19.. i just don't like to be around that many people anymore. the only thing i still do is visit a festival each year. but thats enough for me. i also kind of like my bubble but sometimes i feel like i'd like to share the bubble with someone else. i still have a lot of room in here..

i have quite a lot a friends who are really interested in the things i do but most of them have issues like depression or such things. they only like to have a puff of weed once in a while. a really good friend of mine is VERY into science fiction and also VERY interested in parallel dimensions and that sort of stuff. he would like to try it as he told me once. but i advised him not to because he is VERY depressive and i'm afraid that it might not do him well.

what do you think? could a depression be cured by speaking with the other? i think about him a lot because he is VERY lonely and he doesn't have ANYONE besides me and my girlfriend to talk to and chill with. his depression was so bad that at some point he didn't go to work anymore. then he got fired. he is now seeking therapeutic help. back in the days i used to trip on acid with him and he thought it was VERY COOL! he loved it. he loved the state of mind he was in and he loved the things thought brought to him in these states. he is very intelligent. then one day he took some acid which was bad. there was speed on the trip or something. he got stomach issues and just had a really bad time.

that experience told him not to do this anymore. i had those trips tested and he knows that the bad feeling wasnt from the acid but from some other crap on the trips. he is very interested in mushrooms. altho i think mushrooms could be kind of hard on him because of the bodyload. the thing he liked so much about acid was that it only worked in his mind and he never got strange body issues. i think for him it might be good to just have the tryptamine giggles again. maybe i should invite him to a nice spliff with 25mg of dmt on it. just to get into that state again for some 10minutes or so.

what do you think? should i give him the greatest gift there is to give or should i wait for his therapy to get going and his life to stabalize before i confront him with it? it means very much to me that he sees the light some day. it means even more to me than me seeing the light because i am a very stable person and seeing him like this makes me sad every time i think about it. i would like his life to have meaning again.

does DMT help with depressions?
 
well i think that if hes drawn to it like you say then he should try it...just take it slow..and remember to give him good advice...seriously i cant see how being depressed and dmt DONT mix...its the MOST BEAUTIFUL thing i have ever seen...and now...when i come back...i see the WHOLE world that way...it IS a gift...and just tell him...that if he EVER needs to talk about anything..that you will be there for him no matter what...

that is very important...but i think you should do it...make it a very nice environment...with some calming music playing..maybe even a beer to help calm the nerves a bit...and just start him off slow and steady..and if he likes it...like i think he may(haha i dont know him but who wouldnt like spice?!) you may just give him the most rewarding experience he has ever had...

maybe thats why he is so depressed...because he hasnt been shown any reason to be happy...make him feel privileged
 
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