Just DMT

[DMTripper]

I've noticed people here are usually using MAOI's when smoking DMT so I was wondering if no one smoked just pure DMT anymore?

So is everyone here always using MAOI's with their DMT?

 

[ragabr]

SWIM smoked pure DMT until two days ago. Now she doesn't think she'll go back.

 

[DMTripper]

SWIM smoked pure DMT until two days ago. Now she doesn't think she'll go back.

So is this SWIY now using MAOI's or not smoking DMT at all any more?

 

[۩]

Gotta love how caapi smooths out even the deepest of breakthroughs, while offering guidance, lengthening, potentiating, unlocking...

I have gone back, but doubt I ever will again.

 

[DMTripper]

Gotta love how caapi smooths out even the deepest of breakthroughs, while offering guidance, lengthening, potentiating, unlocking...

I have gone back, but doubt I ever will again.

Are you making changa with caapi leaves or do you brew caapi before smoking?

 

[۩]

I've brewed caapi vine and caapi leaves before smoking. I've made 10x tinctures with caapi vines and leaves and infused onto changa. I've smoked caapi leaf mapacho spliffs before smoking caapi leaf changa. Effects are profound! See for yourself ;]

 

[ragabr]

Aha, sorry DMTripper. Still travelling, just doesn't see any reason to travel without Lady Aya.

 

[DeMenTed]

Just pure dmt for me

 

[Dimitri-Trance]

Just pure dmt for me

Me too.
I LoVE vaporhusca tho...thats were the learning starts.8)

 

[kaleidoscope eyes]

I have only smoked pure [extracted] DMT so far, but that is more just because I want to become more accustomed to it before adding to the experience with other substances, and moreover I think I would need to do a bit more research to be sure I was doing it safely [with the right herbs or plants in the right amount that is safe.]

 

[ghostman]

I only smoke Changa and Enhanced leaf now. I don't really miss the scalpel that pure DMT wields, however if I think back I wasn't anywhere near as apprehensive and cautious as I am now. Perhaps because I am more calibrated to the teaching of Mamma Aya and hold her in the utmost reverence.

One thing I did think about the pure DMT is that it's GONE in 10m minutes. Changa takes about an hour to tail off. But it's such a beautiful tail, why would anyone not want that warm glow to bask in and think about the journey.

I recently vaped spice just to introduce a friend and let him get the feel for the DMT only. I can't say I miss it.

 

[kaleidoscope eyes]

I only smoke Changa and Enhanced leaf now. I don't really miss the scalpel that pure DMT wields, however if I think back I wasn't anywhere near as apprehensive and cautious as I am now. Perhaps because I am more calibrated to the teaching of Mamma Aya and hold her in the utmost reverence.

One thing I did think about the pure DMT is that it's GONE in 10m minutes. Changa takes about an hour to tail off. But it's such a beautiful tail, why would anyone not want that warm glow to bask in and think about the journey.

I recently vaped spice just to introduce a friend and let him get the feel for the DMT only. I can't say I miss it.

This is going to probably seem like a very silly question, but unfortunately I haven't done that much research on Changa- so thought you could probably clear this up for me =)
But how come the duration is significantly more? I thought the MAOI combination only prolonged the experience when DMT was taken orally due to how it is broken down with it in your stomach?

 

[smokeydaze]

This is going to probably seem like a very silly question, but unfortunately I haven't done that much research on Changa- so thought you could probably clear this up for me =)
But how come the duration is significantly more? I thought the MAOI combination only prolonged the experience when DMT was taken orally due to how it is broken down with it in your stomach?

It still lengths it when smoked, just not as much.

 

[ghostman]

I only smoke Changa and Enhanced leaf now. I don't really miss the scalpel that pure DMT wields, however if I think back I wasn't anywhere near as apprehensive and cautious as I am now. Perhaps because I am more calibrated to the teaching of Mamma Aya and hold her in the utmost reverence.

One thing I did think about the pure DMT is that it's GONE in 10m minutes. Changa takes about an hour to tail off. But it's such a beautiful tail, why would anyone not want that warm glow to bask in and think about the journey.

I recently vaped spice just to introduce a friend and let him get the feel for the DMT only. I can't say I miss it.

This is going to probably seem like a very silly question, but unfortunately I haven't done that much research on Changa- so thought you could probably clear this up for me =)
But how come the duration is significantly more? I thought the MAOI combination only prolonged the experience when DMT was taken orally due to how it is broken down with it in your stomach?

"MAO enzymes are found throughout the body and come in two known types: type A (found in most body tissues), and type B (found predominatly in brain glial cells). Glial cells are small brain cells which surround and metabolically support the neurons which conduct the electrical signals throughout the brain.

"Most MAO inhibitors are unselective, inhibiting both MAO-A and MAO-B to a similar degree."

I also read someone saying something about Dennis McKenna talking about MAO inhibition taking place in the brain.

Caapi Changa keeps the portal open for me for much MUCH longer. Where pure DMT was a 5-7 minute trip with a 2-3 minute peak, with Changa I am in deep for 10-15 minutes and still out there for 45 minutes.

 

[gammagore]

Only changa for me.

 

[shoe]

I don't know if I could face a ten hour long trip into hyperspace... that being said I am still looking forward to trying pharma.

 

[kaleidoscope eyes]

"MAO enzymes are found throughout the body and come in two known types: type A (found in most body tissues), and type B (found predominatly in brain glial cells). Glial cells are small brain cells which surround and metabolically support the neurons which conduct the electrical signals throughout the brain.

"Most MAO inhibitors are unselective, inhibiting both MAO-A and MAO-B to a similar degree."

I also read someone saying something about Dennis McKenna talking about MAO inhibition taking place in the brain.

Caapi Changa keeps the portal open for me for much MUCH longer. Where pure DMT was a 5-7 minute trip with a 2-3 minute peak, with Changa I am in deep for 10-15 minutes and still out there for 45 minutes.

Ahh thank you for the info, that is definitely most interesting. So the reason it also effects smoking is because it also effects the MAO enzymes in the brain =)
Hmm def doing a lot more Changa research, I think I would be interested in trying this method of smoking DMT next time. Is there any special diet you should follow in the days leading up to it like for aya?

 

[ghostman]

"MAO enzymes are found throughout the body and come in two known types: type A (found in most body tissues), and type B (found predominatly in brain glial cells). Glial cells are small brain cells which surround and metabolically support the neurons which conduct the electrical signals throughout the brain.

"Most MAO inhibitors are unselective, inhibiting both MAO-A and MAO-B to a similar degree."

I also read someone saying something about Dennis McKenna talking about MAO inhibition taking place in the brain.

Caapi Changa keeps the portal open for me for much MUCH longer. Where pure DMT was a 5-7 minute trip with a 2-3 minute peak, with Changa I am in deep for 10-15 minutes and still out there for 45 minutes.

Ahh thank you for the info, that is definitely most interesting. So the reason it also effects smoking is because it also effects the MAO enzymes in the brain =)
Hmm def doing a lot more Changa research, I think I would be interested in trying this method of smoking DMT next time. Is there any special diet you should follow in the days leading up to it like for aya?

For changa, I don't think so. I have read about avoiding foods high in Tyramine (strong cheese, red wine) as they can potentiate high blood pressure. Once again though, I'm not sure how relevant this is fo changa where the levels of MAOi are much lower and the trip is a lot shorter than if you were going on an Ayahusca journey.

Maybe some of our more experienced and knowlegable members can shed some light on this?

 

[Pandora]

Hi DMTripper,

I used to almost always smoke just the pure DMT. I wasn't even into full spectrum, jimjam or jungle and I would choose white over yellow, . . . though I haven't given up experimenting . . . LOL.

Maybe one trip out of 10 I would intentionally pre-dose with an oral MAOI, either THH or B. Caapi tea . . .

But, lately, I've been using changa exclusively and my changa has a heavy B. Caapi leaf and Passionflower component, so I guess I've happily joined the masses, LOL.

Peace & Love,
Pandora

 

[DMTripper]

When you smoke pure DMT the full effects come on in about a minute. Is it the same with caapi leaves. So smoking it together the caapi reaches your brain at the same time?

And how about blue lotus. I've seen people using Blue Lotus in changa. Blue Lotus doesn't have any MAOI's do they? Do some people mix DMT with just Blue Lotus or is there always caapi leaves or some MAOI's mixed also?