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I decieded to try re extracting my [100grams of] spent bark wondering if I would get any more spice?
Ill know tomorrow morning..but i did find this post about discovering more DMT may exist in spent bark?
For all that havent read this... it below...
not shure if this statement below makes sense...?
There is little doubt that re-extracting the Mimosa solution after waiting several months resulted in a significant additional yield of DMT. The experiments also suggest that [[[[waiting one year results in a greater additional yield than waiting six months.]]!!!?
if this is true...WOW!
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Mimosa tenuiflora (= M. hostilis) Root-Bark Extraction Tips
by J. Cocktoasten
v1.2 - Jun 26, 2012
Originally published in The Entheogen Review
Citation: Cocktoasten, J. "Keep that Mimosa Mud?". The Entheogen Review. Winter 2008;16(4):150.
I was cleaning out my kitchen cabinets a while back, and ran across a one-gallon jug containing an aqueous basified Mimosa tenuiflora solution, on which I had performed a DMT extraction the previous year using Noman's "DMT for the Masses" tek. That extraction had yielded 0.946 of a gram of recrystallized material from only 100 grams of root-bark--almost a full 1.0%. Not bad.
Since I'd exceeded my yield expectations at the time that the original extraction was performed, I had little hope that the solution I found would produce any additional DMT. However, I was reluctant to dispose of it without running another naphtha pull, just for the hell of it. I was amazed to open my freezer the next morning and see my precipitation vessel adorned with a significant amount of fluffy crystals. I decided a second pull was in order.
Combining material from the first and second pulls, I was left with a total 0.921 grams of additional unrefined extract! How was this possible? I discussed my findings with a chemist friend who questioned whether or not I had determined this extract to be DMT, suggesting that it might contain a mix of other substances. He asked if I had sampled it. Unfortunately, I'd combined the material with another stash, so I could no longer perform a bioassay solely on the new isolate. The only solution was to repeat the experiment.
Follow-up Experiment
I performed the Noman tek on a kilogram of Mimosa tenuiflora root-bark, resulting in 9.1 grams of recrystallized DMT. The "spent" solution was then shelved for six months. I would have preferred to wait a full year, but I intended on publishing the results in this final issue of ER, which presented an unavoidable time constraint. The first pull yielded 3.14 grams, and a second pull yielded 0.82 grams, for a total of roughly 4 grams of unrefined extract. This material was slightly more yellow and waxy than the original extract. A portion of this unrefined extract was further refined via recrystallization; however, that process yielded less pure white crystal than expected, with more "dirty material" than usual clumped to the bottom of the vessel.
Testing
The unrefined extract was rolled into a joint of dried mullein leaf and smoked by a group of test subjects who were all familiar with the effects of DMT. Subjects reported the material to be of lesser strength than expected, but said that it definitely had DMT effects. One subject felt that it was slightly harsher than other unrefined extracts he had smoked. The refined crystals were later smoked by one test subject, who found their effects to be consistent with DMT.
Conclusion
There is little doubt that re-extracting the Mimosa solution after waiting several months resulted in a significant additional yield of DMT. The experiments also suggest that waiting one year results in a greater additional yield than waiting six months. However, subjective testing indicated the unrefined extract was of lesser purity than material from the original extraction, and the lower recrystallization yield supported this finding.
Finally, I'd like to recommend a significant improvement to the Noman tek. The tek describes using glass collection jars, but I've found that DMT has a tendency to bond aggressively to glass surfaces. It does not however, bond to plastic surfaces, particularly high-impact plastics like Nalgene. Using plastic collection jars promotes easy removal of the extract (it simply pours out), and avoids tedious scraping of surfaces and the inevitable waste of some material. [Note: See comments regarding the use of plastics on pages 157-158. -- Eds.] Have fun, and hold onto that Mimosa mud!
Ill know tomorrow morning..but i did find this post about discovering more DMT may exist in spent bark?
For all that havent read this... it below...
not shure if this statement below makes sense...?
There is little doubt that re-extracting the Mimosa solution after waiting several months resulted in a significant additional yield of DMT. The experiments also suggest that [[[[waiting one year results in a greater additional yield than waiting six months.]]!!!?
if this is true...WOW!
Path : plants > mimosa
Tough economic times hurt Erowid Center.
Help by making a small contribution.
Keep that Mimosa Mud?
Mimosa tenuiflora (= M. hostilis) Root-Bark Extraction Tips
by J. Cocktoasten
v1.2 - Jun 26, 2012
Originally published in The Entheogen Review
Citation: Cocktoasten, J. "Keep that Mimosa Mud?". The Entheogen Review. Winter 2008;16(4):150.
I was cleaning out my kitchen cabinets a while back, and ran across a one-gallon jug containing an aqueous basified Mimosa tenuiflora solution, on which I had performed a DMT extraction the previous year using Noman's "DMT for the Masses" tek. That extraction had yielded 0.946 of a gram of recrystallized material from only 100 grams of root-bark--almost a full 1.0%. Not bad.
Since I'd exceeded my yield expectations at the time that the original extraction was performed, I had little hope that the solution I found would produce any additional DMT. However, I was reluctant to dispose of it without running another naphtha pull, just for the hell of it. I was amazed to open my freezer the next morning and see my precipitation vessel adorned with a significant amount of fluffy crystals. I decided a second pull was in order.
Combining material from the first and second pulls, I was left with a total 0.921 grams of additional unrefined extract! How was this possible? I discussed my findings with a chemist friend who questioned whether or not I had determined this extract to be DMT, suggesting that it might contain a mix of other substances. He asked if I had sampled it. Unfortunately, I'd combined the material with another stash, so I could no longer perform a bioassay solely on the new isolate. The only solution was to repeat the experiment.
Follow-up Experiment
I performed the Noman tek on a kilogram of Mimosa tenuiflora root-bark, resulting in 9.1 grams of recrystallized DMT. The "spent" solution was then shelved for six months. I would have preferred to wait a full year, but I intended on publishing the results in this final issue of ER, which presented an unavoidable time constraint. The first pull yielded 3.14 grams, and a second pull yielded 0.82 grams, for a total of roughly 4 grams of unrefined extract. This material was slightly more yellow and waxy than the original extract. A portion of this unrefined extract was further refined via recrystallization; however, that process yielded less pure white crystal than expected, with more "dirty material" than usual clumped to the bottom of the vessel.
Testing
The unrefined extract was rolled into a joint of dried mullein leaf and smoked by a group of test subjects who were all familiar with the effects of DMT. Subjects reported the material to be of lesser strength than expected, but said that it definitely had DMT effects. One subject felt that it was slightly harsher than other unrefined extracts he had smoked. The refined crystals were later smoked by one test subject, who found their effects to be consistent with DMT.
Conclusion
There is little doubt that re-extracting the Mimosa solution after waiting several months resulted in a significant additional yield of DMT. The experiments also suggest that waiting one year results in a greater additional yield than waiting six months. However, subjective testing indicated the unrefined extract was of lesser purity than material from the original extraction, and the lower recrystallization yield supported this finding.
Finally, I'd like to recommend a significant improvement to the Noman tek. The tek describes using glass collection jars, but I've found that DMT has a tendency to bond aggressively to glass surfaces. It does not however, bond to plastic surfaces, particularly high-impact plastics like Nalgene. Using plastic collection jars promotes easy removal of the extract (it simply pours out), and avoids tedious scraping of surfaces and the inevitable waste of some material. [Note: See comments regarding the use of plastics on pages 157-158. -- Eds.] Have fun, and hold onto that Mimosa mud!