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Kief trip similar to DMT trip?

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WalkingSpirit

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Ok to start off let me say this. I am a 1st time extracter. I used Erowid’s Acid/Base; then a short version of DMT-Nexus Lextek. I failed in both. First, I failed with Erowid because I evaporated the solvent. I scraped up what I could salvage and put it in a jar with naptha. I failed in both though, because I used lighter fluid. The crystals melted into an oily substance.

In the end I had an orangish-goo on a razorblade. I tried to put it on a screen for my freebase-pipe. The screen didn’t fit so I struggled to smoke it in some odd fashion. Then I took out some freeze precipitating naptha and collected the crystals that had produced. Not much was left but a few large crystals. I put it in a bowl with some bud. I smoked it with a roommate who helped with the process of extraction.

Nothing happened, just some euphoria. Ten hours later, I was treated to a gravity bong hit of kief. As I played music, I wanted to DMT trip so badly after the whole ordeal. I turned on the visualizer and searched for a space portal-esque theme. When I found one, I noticed my vision had changed. Had it been triggered?

Even if not....

It started with some trippy visuals. I don’t know how much I smoked or if it was even still in my body. It could’ve been the kief. I looked at my roommates and they had lights around their eyes. I was listening to “Spiritual Trance” by Infected Mushrooms.

I looked at the screen and put on the visualizer reminiscing of times I was on shrooms. I tried meditating on shrooms before and so I tried to do the same again. As I became mentally still it was as if my perception shifted. It started off with a high pitch buzzing sound. It was in my ears. It started to become so loud that I couldn’t hear anything but that damn buzzing!

Soon, my body was shaking, no; it was vibrating. Every single molecule of every atom, every fabric of space and time, whatever I am was being ripped apart. I was there, in complete bliss. About to blast-off and I gave thanks for this. As everything went white and I lost all feeling suddenly I was in limbo.

For a few seconds I floated there, though I felt like static. Then, I abruptly started coming back down. I was coming down hard. My mind couldn’t adjust. My thoughts were in a freefall elevator and when that thing hit the bottom, I became nothing for awhile. I’m sort of in shock really. I don’t know what happened and I am beginning to question myself or if I just didn’t take enough.

Side note, this is gonna sound fan-boyish. Anyone seen Fullmetal Alchemist? Anyone seen the new series FMA: Brotherhood? Well in either one, where Ed is about to learn what is truth, he re-appears back in limbo. That’s how I felt. That’s EXACTLY how I felt.

Anyways, I probably had something more than I think. The struggle is kinda overshadowing it right now. But later I’m going to take the time and care to reflect on this. I think I’ll find a lot more. Even if it was just a kief trip, it was interesting.

Link: Kief trip similar to DMT trip? - First steps in Hyperspace - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus
7:40-10:30 is how sorta how FMA reflects what I felt. :p
 
Woohoo, finally, somebody else who has had actual full-blown psychedelic experiences with cannabis! My friend has them too. He's such a lightweight; I think he's technically considered medically underweight. And since he doesn't smoke often, but smokes with people who do and who have a high tolerance, he's gotten waaaay too high quite a few times. One time, he went completely into an inner, hallucinated world for about a half hour while his friends got food. He didn't have any contact with reality during the whole time, and can't really remember what happened during the trip except the end, when he noticed something from reality (his eyes had been open the whole time) and suddenly realized that reality was not what he had been paying attention to. The inner world immediately vanished and he was back to reality. Still stoned, still getting flanging/strobing effects, but back to reality.

My friend believes that anyone who thinks cannabis isn't a "real" psychedelic has never tried enough of it. He could be wrong; maybe it just differs from person to person. But your story seems to indicate that it's possible!
 
I've honestly had something simmilar to a breakthrough exerience with canabis..or keif..west coast..where it is THE BEST....
its a bit different though, almost as fast at times but, no words, "like seeing god" might be the closest in our language...shifting from a view of myself above myself then to myself as every atomin the universe aware of itself..in a kinda strobe effect

I for one definetly consider GOOD STRONG cannibis to definetly be psychedelic, and powerfully so!
 
How likely is that one may get weed that is sprayed with whatever? From JWH-XXX to even smokeable tryptamines?

Weed can be easily stripped off of its resin and then replaced with anything. If something like this is for whatever reason profitable for the black market I see no reason why this thing wouldn't be happening.
 
elofer said:
I've honestly had something simmilar to a breakthrough exerience with canabis..or keif..west coast..where it is THE BEST....
its a bit different though, almost as fast at times but, no words, "like seeing god" might be the closest in our language...shifting from a view of myself above myself then to myself as every atomin the universe aware of itself..in a kinda strobe effect

I for one definetly consider GOOD STRONG cannibis to definetly be psychedelic, and powerfully so!
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hmm, that sounds like DMT enfused weed to me.

I agree that a good strong cannibis is psychedelic, but no way is it similar to spice unless its been treated with something else.
 
I've eaten so much hash to the point I couldn't even move my fingers and was physically disabled for a good two days unable to leave my bed.

Ya, it was psychedelic.

NOTHING LIKE DMT.
 
Heh, "nothing like DMT" is right. My friend greatly prefers DMT for psychedelic exploration because using enough cannabis to get psychedelic effects is often distinctly unpleasant. That would be okay if the trips yielded valuable insights or something, but that doesn't seem to be the case. What does a psychedelic amount of cannabis teach, aside from "I never want to be that stoned again" and the like? Too much brain fog to become mindful and equanimous like with DMT.

That said, it would be really interesting to hear if people have gotten good results and/or insights from cannabis trips in psychedelic amounts. Maybe my friend just sucks at using high doses of cannabis properly.
 
In the past I had good success with orally consumed cannabis for visionary journeys. William S. Burroughs and Paul Bowles both worked with the Moroccan preparation majoun with apparently great success. Check out Bowles' short story "Allal" as a great example.
 
Cannabis can be a very powerfull psychedelic. But there are a few major differences between cannabis an any of the substances that traditionally are labeled as halucinogen, amongst wich are DMT, psilocin, mescalin and LSD.

The most important difference is that cannabis has not the type of visual activity, those substances have. The visual effects cannabis can give in large amounts are mild visual distortions, while on DMT a whole new world can pop-up in front of your eyes, when you close your eyes or when you're in an environment that's dark enough. Images that are full of light, and wich are seen as if they're real.

Cannabis can in large amounts have aural effects, bodily sensations, altered awareness of time and certainly mental effects though, that are very powerfull, even compared with the traditional substances. In large amounts, cannabis can be on the same level as LSD.

When it comes to bodily sensations i think in large amounts it's even superiour to LSD.
In time-perception it's very equal to it.
 
I once had a strong experience with Cannabis where I saw sparkle things in the air and I could not communicate with my friend for at leased 20 minuets. I was so buzzed and I just smoked a small bud in my bong.

When I first smoked weed
and got buzzed it was black hash and I saw the walls of the room I was in sort of shift a bit and I do remember having a strong imagined CEVs. I would not classify it as a true CEV but more of a vivid imagination of shapes. This was impressive at the time but now is just a regular occurrence when I smoke weed. Now it is common place, but not boring.

I have not yet experience DMT, but I'm sure you will know if you got buzzed on it. I talked to a guy once who said he tried LSD but did not know if he got high. I said if you took LSD you would know, with out a doubt if you got high.
I have read that smoked DMT lasts a short time like 10 minuets or so, so you would not be affected by it hours later.

When I get around to trying DMT, I think I will do it the natural way by making the tea like in South America.
Or I will plug it. (for all who don't know what plugging is, its sticking it up you butt).

Be careful with the armature chemistry. I would leave that up to people who are chemists by training. That is just my opinion. I'm not a chemist, nor do I play one on television.
 
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