Ok guys so i have been doing alot more reading....i think i am going to follow cybs salt tek....however i have a question about the freezing step.....say you could get thing ALOT colder than a freezer (i am talking about liquid nitrogen wich i think is about -320 or something like that) i have access to a pritty much unlimited supply of the stuff...i use it for work. so basicly i am wondering if using this to freeze would either make a better product or possibly get things done even quicker? any one try anything like this or maybe dry ice i am not sure if it would help or hurt....shit for all i know it will freeze everything too much ruining it what do you guys think?