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[howdoishotweb]

Hello everyone, this is a short background on me and why I am here.

Over the past 2 years I've been becoming more and more interested in DMT. Until more recently have not spent any time thinking about what it might be like to try it for myself. I'm a strong atheist and I don't subscribe to any spiritual ideas whatsoever. For clarification; A strong atheist is one that assert's that it is false that any deities exist.

At times I find myself confused about the world. I get a nagging feeling that there is something significant that I am unable to perceive. I spend hours in deep thought; however, my thought it totally unfocused as if I am actively concentrating on nothing. I develop a deep curiosity and a feeling that there is some part of my conscience that is significant to understanding myself that I am completely unaware of. I get the sense that some people will immediately relate to this idea regardless of the fact that I don't share the idea with anyone.

Certain things about the way people think, react, and perceive their world make it quite obvious that the way our brains function is far more complicated than we can currently explain. I find it fascinating that you can hook a camera to a blind person's tongue and they can see an image. A smear of rat brain on a set of electrodes has been shown to be capable of simple tasks in a flight simulator. I get a strong sense of euphoria when I let these idea roll around in my head; again, not so much thinking about anything specifically.

Before I had established myself as a strong atheist I was curious as to what made people subscribe to a belief system. The conclusion that I came to personally and that I would point to as the root of all theism is the desire to have an answer or to know that an answer is there to be obtained. I had been certain of this for a few years before I started to wonder what it meant in regards to myself. After some time, and spending more afternoons in unfocused thought, I discovered that I truly enjoyed the idea that some things have no answer or a simply without purpose. A wealth of information pointed in no specific direction. This is what lead to the growth in my interest of DMT.

I've recently been spending a lot of time reading accounts of DMT experiences and the thing that stands out the most is a sensation of information flow and being able to observe an overwhelming amount of detail. When I finish reading an account that is well written and has a good deal of description with no attempt at an explanation I find myself in a trance like state for a few minutes. I am aware of everything that is happening and I am in full control of my body but I feel as if I am observing myself more than being myself. I can almost see myself in third person sometimes.

I am not sure what I expect to gain from DMT and that somehow compounds the euphoria I get when thinking about it and reading accounts. I've started to seriously figure out how to try some for myself and that is what lead me to the Nexus. I feel as if I am walking up to the precipice of a something yet unseen by myself. I hope to learn just a few more things here before I take a look.

Thanks for reading.

 

[Vodsel]

Hello howdoishotweb,

thanks for your intro. I'm curious to know if what you describe as "unfocused thought" or "deep thought" might be what other people call "meditation".

I think realizing there's "something significant we are unable to perceive" is a step in the right direction :)

And if you allow me a suggestion, try not to get too knee-deep in absolute assertions and doctrines, theistic or atheistic. If you want to prepare to experience DMT, you'll want to be open and questioning everything, including your own certainties. Not that I intend to question your beliefs... just a reminder that, as you say, there's a lot we ignore, and realizing our knowledge is provisional (all of it) will get you further in my experience.

Have you had experiences with any psychedelics other than DMT?

And welcome to the Nexus.

 

[howdoishotweb]

I won't say that meditation is a bad description but I had always thought that meditation was more intentional and with at least some purpose.

I should expand on my comment of my comment that there is "something significant we are unable to perceive," to say that we don't consciously recognize the perception though some parts of our brain must be readily aware of it. That is to say, I don't suspect anything supernatural.

I am a scientist and though I call myself a strong atheist, if something provided me with convincing enough evidence I would give it my consideration. I do however maintain, however, that judeo-christian beliefs are self contradictory, paradoxical, and hold no water. Some aspects of eastern religions have some very compelling elements and it's my understanding that some of the people who practice do not subscribe to anything supernatural.

The only hallucinatory experiences that I have had to date were from prescription pain killers . Some of which lasted for days.

Thanks for the reply.

 

[wall-iko]

1. meditation is not "unfocused thought" or "deep thought" intentional or not.
Meditation is "quit thinking" it is when you say NO to your mind and surrender yourself to pure feelings inside you. it can be scary

2. " I get a nagging feeling that there is something significant that I am unable to perceive"
you do not need to be a theist or religious to be a seeker. in fact my personal opinion about all religions is that they all are techniques to know "God" and by God i mean yourself as an undetachable part of everything.

3. and this is a real theory of mine (i have never tried it yet) i think dmt opens a door in to deepest places of your subconscience. and i will not talk about what i think those entities are which as Nexusians say you can meet in your trips

so i suggest Just keep searching and trying different techniques and methods of knowing yourself. do not say now to stupid things my friend