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fractal rider

fractal rider

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swim has donde 2 times lsd this weekend and has his MHRB just arrived and wanted to do a brew preparation and was wondering how much time swim has to take for a good ayahuasca experiencie since he donde acid this weekend it good affect the ayahuasca experience so swim wants to know if he sould wait some time or not ant if he has to wait what how much time does he have to wait????????
 
there is no cross tolerance between dmt and lsd, AFAIK, so you will trip, it wont be weaker..

I think what you do have to think though, is your intentions, and if maybe you are not being too much in a hurry and so on.

If you do think that its time to take and that its no problem you just had two psychedelic experiences lately, your soul is ready for the next one, then go ahead, with care of course.

Did you ever take MHRB orally? How are you planning on preparing and consuming? Will you use any MAOI or make cold brew? What dosages you are considering taking?
 
swim will wait sometime swim thinks that he is ready for this experience it will swims first time on ayahuasca swim will do cook his mimosa and take a i(mao) ans is plannig to take 15 grams of MHRB
 
First time?

If you brew 15 grams. Drink 1/3 of it. Wait a couple of hours, then proceed to drink more. That's just my advice.
You might also want to research the egg white tek to remove tannins because the mimosa tea will be very hard to drink and keep down.
It helps.
 
SWIM says that ayahuasca made with chacruna or chaliponga is not nearly as bad tasting or nauseating and the experience is much nicer.
 
Definitely DONT take 15 grams mimosa for the first time

indeed start with 5. SWIM's first time was with 9 and that was very strong!

If its your first time drinking some ayahuasca analogue, expect (and prepare for) purging... So have some bathroom or place in the woods to go to if necessary, and its always good to have some water/cold watermelon juice nearby...

To prepare, boil on low fire for 10 minutes, separate the liquid, put the solids with fresh water and boil again, doing this for a total of 3 times. Then throw away the solids, put the liquid together, and boil/simmer it down on low fire until there is about half a glass per dose. It will taste VERY bad.

To help a bit with the taste, one can try to do an egg-white cleaning before.. which is basically once you got the 3 filtered liquids together, but before you boil them to small amount, you get egg white, mix it good before, and then with the filtered brew on the fire, hot but not yet boiling, mix in the egg white and keep stiring. The egg white will in the next seconds/minutes become greyish and float, and together with it it will trap a lot of tannins, which are substances that give the adstringency/bad taste to mimosa. So then either spoon it out if they are solid enough, or sieve/filter it or whatever other way you preffer. Then boil it down to small amount as before.

Drinking strong ginger tea half an hour before can also help with the nausea/stomach discomfort a bit..

what MAOI are you pretending to take, and how much?
 
thanks alot i was swim is thinking to do the pharmhuasca the first time with aurorix then swim wants to experience with syrian rue and caapi
 
I've heard people have good experiences with aurorix/moclobemide.. its one of the safest pharmaceutical maoi out there... But SWIM himself preffers the more natural alternatives... so yes do check out rue or caapi next time. There are also easy and food-safe extractions of the Harmala alkaloids in rue, which is very cheap (5 dollars for 100g shipping included to south america or wherever). A dose of rue is usually only 3,5g

on a side note.. when I read the title of this thread I thought it was about taking LSD+DMT in combination...

For SWIM it wasnt really good.. It also wasnt bad/negative, but it just seemed as if the acid consciousness somehow 'limited' the dmt dimension, and all SWIM got was more pretty colours or something of the sort (normal breakthrough big dose), but it didnt really bring SWIM to another dimension as dmt usually does.

SWIM swears by mushrooms+dmt.. THIS is an amazing and harmonious combo :)
 
I would recommend picking up some caapi. Stay away from rue unless you want your ass kicked. Last time I tried a pharma experience. I used rue and it I did not have a good time. It was a learning experience, but not fun at all. It was like being in complete hell for 6 hours that seemed like a life time. Aya will cleanse your soul, so make sure you are ready.

I have never smoked weed during an aya experience. I always feel like I don't need it.

I hope you find what you need. Good vibes your way.
 
yeah SWIM usually doesnt feel the need for anything during ayahuasca/pharmahuasca experience ... Its challenging enough as it is.

But once he did smoke some proper good stuff just after the peak and it was marvelous, so its hard to say.. if you want, have the joint already rolled/prepared, or else its way too much trouble during the trip.
 
i tried the mimosa yesterday but didt have success swim had a hard job keeping it down and thorw up a few minutes after taking the brew and just had mild symptoms but didt have the experience that i was looking how can you keep it down ?????
 
as said, ginger tea half an hour before may help.. reducing (in low fire) to small amounts is better than having to drink a glass full. Also, the if you didnt do the egg white cleaning tek, it can help... but in any case, its a tough job to swallow mimosa, I agree
 
thanks endlessness i will take your advice with the ginger root i dont eat eggs thoe becuase swim is a vegetarian but swim has more problem keeping it down a use lemon to help drinking the brew i will try the ginger the next time thanks
 
SWIM and others found 3 Datura stramonium seeds to be more effective than ginger. Not only does it almost completely block the nausea, but it also enhances the experience.
 
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