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LSD sensitivity after DMT?

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I have been using LSD off and on for 20 years or so. After using it fairly regularly for the past 5 months I decided to take a break and experiment with DMT. I had never used it until this time. I started out small and increased dosage and after a couple months had some breakthrough experiences. After one particularly strong experience ,which was positive, I felt like I didn't need to go any further for now and put it away.

Yesterday I returned to LSD. I took a +/- 300ug (The dose may not be 100% accurate the product is tested and definitely LSD). This came from the same batch I have been using all year. This dose is pretty standard for me though sometimes I go a bit higher. I have always had pleasant experiences even though they can be very intense. My set and setting were normal and my intentions good.

This trip was the most intense psychedelic experience I have ever had. I wanted to let go, flow down stream etc. but couldn't. I was clutching to every peaceful part of my being just to keep from calling my wife home from work to take me to the ER. I knew that with time this would ware off. It took a looong time. Much longer than I remember any other trip taking. I dosed very early in the morning and did not return to reality until mid afternoon. I was still tripping long into the night.

I was on the brink of something and felt like I should let go but feared that I would never return. So I fought it all the way. I went for a bike ride, a jog, sat by the river, meditated. The insanity would just creep in if I sat still for too long but looking back regret not letting go.

I am wondering if the DMT use might have made me more sensitive to LSD? The trip was sometimes just as intense as a DMT experience but way too long. I think I need to do some work in reality before returning to this world. Some inner spiritual work. There is something in there that I need to face and I think I should face it sober before returning.
 
Yeah, many people here have experienced increased receptivity/sensitivity to these experiences after working with dmt.

I know after I had taken dmt for awhile, especially after having had some incredibly powerful experiences over the course of a few years - those had drastically altered how sensitive I was to these experiences.
 
I had a very strong experience from 75-100 ug as I had on 300 ug before DMT. It was a novel experience as well so I can anedcotically approve.
 
I do feel that LSD has become consistently different after DMT, but mainly in the realm of closed eye visuals which are now more persistent and aggressive. Other aspects feel the same to me.

It's my personal belief that there are essentially a few low-odd dice rolls that happen at the beginning of my LSD journeys. One of them determines if the trip is going to be an agonizing s**t show, and another determines if visuals will be way more intense than usual. This has been the case for me before and after DMT.

I've had experiences similar to what you described only twice (where I felt I needed help): One at 100ug- my second time ever taking LSD, and again at 200ug after DMT. I'm not sure that bad/difficult LSD trips and DMT are related, in my case. This stuff affects everyone differently though. I don't know :)
 
im not sure about DMT because I came to it first. Now, LSD is the psychedelic I use most by far, and after iboga LSD and everything else is stronger.
 
Thank you for the comments. I sure feel better this evening. Sorting out all the good from the bad. What an experience. I am seriously not sure if I enjoyed it or not. I don't regret it. It just was.. and it was intense.

I definitely noticed a difference in CEV's. I hadn't really payed much attention to CEV's prior to my DMT use but found them to be very intense during this experience. Unfortunately I was not able to fully immerse myself into that world because it was just to much. Before long I had to get out of bed and go for a run to take my mind off the insanity. I do look forward to exploring this some more when I am ready for another solo journey.

This LSD experience was definitely different for me and I will have to tread a little lighter in the future until I figure out what's what.
 
Your psychological frame could also also have played a big part clearness. 300ug is a fairly hefty dose, even for those of us who like to swim that far out into the lake. One would certainly expect moderate confusion and even some ego loss at that dose. Your experience report sounds like you were fighting ego loss for some parts too.

Maybe you were just more aware of what was happening and overthinking it, rather than the effect actually being any different?
 
Northerner,

I was certainly fighting ego loss at times. I had never been so on the verge before. I could begin to let myself slip into that place and then my mind would take over and stop me. I was aware that if I let myself go I would be better for it but I couldn't do it or at least not for long. Now I am left feeling like there was a missed opportunity but also very aware at how very full of fear I was.

My past experience with ego loss was different. There was no deciding to let go. I had no say in the matter. It just happened. There it was. I was gone and didn't know it until I was back.

DMT has shifted my psychedelic focus inward. On DMT this is short and intense. Bringing this focus to the world of LSD certainly gives one more time to really dig deep within. I think that was something new this time around.

It's really good to be able to work through this a little.
 
its changed an unimaginable amount for me since DMT .. i feel like the visions themselves are more hyperspacey but also my attitude towards the way i recieve the incoming information has transformed. It feels a lot more certain than it used to but I guess that also has a lot to do with me growing up and knowing myself better. I love how adaptable and versatile acid is.. let alone so god damn inspiring. one of my favourite things in the world.
 
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