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LSH Iced Tea Work Thread

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ThirdEyeVision

ThirdEyeVision

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Seeing that acetaldehyde boils at 68 f. I would assume that most would boil off in making a peppermint tea. So I thought an Ice Tea would be a better route. My friends friend said he was thinking of testing this next week. Anyone see any flaws? The Chamomile was added based on 69rons post regarding possible potentation abilities.

Here is the proposed Tek:

Ingredients:
15 HBWR Seeds (Hawaiian Strain)
9 Datura Stramonium Seeds
Two handfuls of fresh Peppermint leaves.
10 Chamomile Tea bags.
Ice cubes
Boiling Water

Equipment:
Blender
Coffee Grinder

Procedure:
1. Make a tea with Chamomile and let cool to room temp.
2. Put HBWR and Datura seeds into coffee grinder and turn to powder.
3. Pour ground seeds into blender and toss in peppermint leaves (fresh)
4. Pour in cooled Chamomile tea.
5. Toss in a couple ice cubes.
6. Blend until smooth.
7. Pour into a holding vessel and put in fridge away from light for 24 hours.
8. Decant and divide into three servings.
9. Enjoy.
 
That looks like a great mix to me. I think using cold water for the peppermint is probably better than using hot water, for the reason you mentioned.

I wonder if the chamomile will do anything. So far I've only seen a few reports stating that it works for boosting the effects of shrooms, and one said it boosted the effects of yopo. Being that those are highly similar tryptamines in the true sense, and not ergolines like LSA/LSH, it's interesting to see if there's any boost for LSA/LSH.

The boosting powers of chamomile are still not known well. It may not work for all people. SWIM has yet to try it with anything (he doesn't have any chamomile at the moment), he’s only read about it on-line, and is super curious about it's potential.
 
69ron said:
That looks like a great mix to me. I think using cold water for the peppermint is probably better than using hot water, for the reason you mentioned.

I wonder if the chamomile will do anything. So far I've only seen a few reports stating that it works for boosting the effects of shrooms, and one said it boosted the effects of yopo. Being that those are highly similar tryptamines in the true sense, and not ergolines like LSA/LSH, it's interesting to see if there's any boost for LSA/LSH.

The boosting powers of chamomile are still not known well. It may not work for all people. SWIM has yet to try it with anything (he doesn't have any chamomile at the moment), he’s only read about it on-line, and is super curious about it's potential.
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Do you think the boiling point of acetaldehyde is the cause of so many failures? Maybe a batch should be made with the same seeds minus the chamomile and taken a few days later to test if it changed anything.
 
I’m not sure about the cause of the failures. It’s happened to SWIM using the exact same batch of seeds, peppermint, etc., which worked one day and didn’t work the next. I’m not altogether sure where the conversion happens. It might happen in the body and not in the tea brewing process.

I’d try using the chamomile separately. Beware, if the potentiation is anything like the kind you get from mixing the non-mescaline alkaloids of achuma or san pedro with LSA/LSH, you’ll be tripping REALLY HARD. SWIM found the non-mescaline alkaloids boosted the LSA/LSH 5-10 times. They also made the trip come on really fast (peaking after 90 minutes instead of the usual 3-4 hours).
 
69ron said:
I’m not sure about the cause of the failures. It’s happened to SWIM using the exact same batch of seeds, peppermint, etc., which worked one day and didn’t work the next. I’m not altogether sure where the conversion happens. It might happen in the body and not in the tea brewing process.

I’d try using the chamomile separately. Beware, if the potentiation is anything like the kind you get from mixing the non-mescaline alkaloids of achuma or san pedro with LSA/LSH, you’ll be tripping REALLY HARD. SWIM found the non-mescaline alkaloids boosted the LSA/LSH 5-10 times. They also made the trip come on really fast (peaking after 90 minutes instead of the usual 3-4 hours).
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5-10 times... well then :?
Not where my friend wants to go necessarily.
I guess the best thing to do then is first see if the tek works minus the chamomile. If it does and is mild enough drink some chamomile to see if there is a shift. THEN decide if it should be left in the TEK.
 
69ron said:
I’m not sure about the cause of the failures. It’s happened to SWIM using the exact same batch of seeds, peppermint, etc., which worked one day and didn’t work the next. I’m not altogether sure where the conversion happens. It might happen in the body and not in the tea brewing process.

I’d try using the chamomile separately. Beware, if the potentiation is anything like the kind you get from mixing the non-mescaline alkaloids of achuma or san pedro with LSA/LSH, you’ll be tripping REALLY HARD. SWIM found the non-mescaline alkaloids boosted the LSA/LSH 5-10 times. They also made the trip come on really fast (peaking after 90 minutes instead of the usual 3-4 hours).
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Not to derail this interesting thread but... how many grams of dry pedro chips (or mg of fullspek alks) would you recommend using for potentiating LSA/LSH?
 
Mystery Man Tea:

The tea that makes your spirit soar!

Ingredients:

8oz Fresh San Pedro (pachanoi), 8 HBWR seeds, and PURIFIED water.

Directions for 1 Dose* (Multiply by the Number of Doses):

1) Weigh out 8oz fresh San Pedro (pachanoi), peal the skin and dice very finely. Put the diced pieces into the freezer and freeze solid. The let thaw, freeze again and then thaw it out again.

2)Bring the water to a boil then add the diced, prepared San Pedro pieces for 12 hours in purified water. (Note: The San Pedro must boil VERY GENTLE or you might destroy alkaloids.)

3) When the San Pedro is boiling, take a pocket knife or use your fingers to remove the fuzzy "dark-brown" coating off 8 HBWR seeds. Grind the seeds up or crush really well. Then soak the crushed/ground seeds in purified water for the 24 hours it takes to brew the San Pedro part of the mixture.

4)Strain the water (with San Pedro) off with a colander and keep it. While still in the colander, smash all the juice possible out of the diced San Pedro pieces. Save this water.

5) Repeat the boiling/colander process with the pulp from last boiling.

6) Mix the strained water from both "boilings" together. Gently boil down the amount of liquid to about 3 to 4 ounces. Do not let the boil get hard.... you must monitor VERY closely.

7) Allow the remaining liquid to cool. Refrigerating it is fine. Now take the HBWR "tea" and strain off the seed mass from the liquid using pantyhose, a sieve, cheesecloth, or if nothing else is available a coffee filter.

8) Drink the San Pedro "tea" really, really fast: "Slam it!" Then wait a few minutes to let your stomach settle down.

9) Then drink the HBWR "tea" very slowly over a period of 20-40 minutes, and either drink a small glass of water, or a few large "gulps" after each sip of the "tea." This process removes the "toxins" and reduces or negates the nausea sometimes associated with taking LSA containing seeds.

NOTE: You MUST use purified water for this process. Tap water contains chemicals that break down the desired alkaloids.

NOTE: Takes a long time to fully kick in. Max peak begins between 2 and 3 hours or so. Duration: 12-14 hours. Not a dose for being in "public."

HINTS: The smell of cooking San Pedro gets very pungent and strong. Drinking the tea as quickly as possible, in one or two swallows is best. The taste is as bad as the smell! Take some lemon juice and swish a mouthful of it around for about 10 seconds, then spit it out and immediately drink the tea. Do not pause between spiting out the lemon juice and drinking the tea. This will help "kill" the bitter taste of the tea.

Boiling down the saved water while doing your next boiling of the San Pedro will speed up the process. Just boil down the volume until it starts to thicken up. Do not let it get thick at this point.

This tea will provide a sufficient dose to produce a strong trip with incredible visual hallucinations. According to Hoffman, mescaline and LSD mixed is the most visual trip. This brew is made from 100% legal plants and would be 2nd best.

*1 Dose = Approx. 270mg Mescaline and 2.0mg Lysergic Acid Amides

(experienced high dosers: use 12-14oz San Pedro, and 10 HBWR seeds)

(For very experienced, very heavy dosers: 18-20oz San Pedro, and 12 HBWR)
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A friend of mine said he had a dream about doing this:

1. Peeled skin then crushed 32 Hawaiian Strain HBWR seeds in a coffee grinder until it was a powder.
2. Defat 5 times with naphtha (until naphtha was clear)
3. Thoroughly dried. What was left was a very dry off white powder with a few brown flakes.
4. He filled a blender with fresh spearmint leaves from the garden, 2 ice cubes and a cup or so of water.
5. Blended until liquid then poured into a french press with HBWR powder.
6. Ground up 15 Datura Stramonium seeds in a mortar and pestle then added to french press.
7. Mixed up and put into fridge for 24 hours.
8. He will filter and divide into 4 shots.

All steps were performed under low light he said.
You think he should squeeze a lemon in there?
You think 8 each is too many?
 
My friend says him and another friend last night poured the tea into a funnel with a piece of cotton ball to filter. It was taking FOREVER so they guesstimated the dose before it had finished filtering through.

At about 30 minutes in they noticed slight tracers and euphoria was kicking in.
At about an hour every nerve ending felt alive and tingled. Still only slight visuals though.
At about 2 hours was definitely feeling it but it was light.

After all said and done. There was zero nausea. Did not make them sleepy AT ALL and no body load. Was mostly euphoric with a body high. Visuals were very slight. They actually said it felt much more similar to MDMA.

In the morning they checked the tea and figured out they had only taken half of what they should have :( So 4 seeds........ dur........


But! They do believe it worked. It was not similar to any previous LSA experiences. It was very fun and relaxing. Perfect for lying down and watching stars. Next time he will not be so impatient and wait for it to filter. They do believe had they taken 8 seeds it would have been much more LSD like.


PS: It smelled like Jägermeister but IT WAS DELICIOUS!!!!
 
When the LSH conversion works, there's no mistaking it for LSA. It's very different.

Many people don't believe this works until they try it a few times. It doesn't always work and that's the problem. So one person may try it and it happened not to work that time, and so they give up on it. DON'T GIVE UP ON IT. When it works it's amazing (unless the dose is too high), not sedating at all.

Why it fails sometimes, I don't know. SWIM has used the exact same procedures that were proven to work, and occasionally it fails. This is a mystery that SWIM has yet to solve.
 
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