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just posting a update

the last attempt was a partial failure (i know i can do better

anyhow the results

test 1 pre shredded 457mg from 25g of bark +/- 3mg

test 2 whole bark 472mg from 25g of bark +/- 3mg

so from 50g of bark thats about 930 mg of bark, comparable to standard sodium chloride results, but no trace or is coloured alkaloids showed up, which is interesting because that means with the trace artifacts this number should go much higher. what came out was absolutely crystal clear (if anyone has seen pictures of those "diamonds" thats what appeared)

i am reattempting this test again, same parameters

250mg deionized watch
50mg 5% acetic acid
25 g from two sources
acid boil for one hour each
70g magnesium sulphate (ONCE FULLY COOLED)
conversion to base (2 table spoons of lye, dissolved in the minimal ammount of water)
extract with naphtha

my mistake the first time where that i added the magnesium sulphate while the soup was still esentially at boiling temp (probably ripped apart the alkaloids, had a similar experience when i tried to add zinc to a different boil) and too much water was used (added too much trying to compensate for the boil off and did not check the total, this means that the saturation level could not be reached)

so here is to round two.

<blockquote data-quote="anonenium" data-source="post: 3632873" data-attributes="member: 19540">just posting a updatethe last attempt was a partial failure (i know i can do betteranyhow the resultstest 1 pre shredded 457mg from 25g of bark +/- 3mgtest 2 whole bark&nbsp;&nbsp; 472mg from 25g of bark +/- 3mgso from 50g of bark thats about 930 mg of bark, comparable to standard sodium chloride results, but no trace or is coloured alkaloids showed up, which is interesting because that means with the trace artifacts this number should go much higher. what came out was absolutely crystal clear (if anyone has seen pictures of those &quot;diamonds&quot; thats what appeared)i am reattempting this test again, same parameters 250mg deionized watch50mg 5% acetic acid25 g from two sourcesacid boil for one hour each70g magnesium sulphate (ONCE FULLY COOLED)conversion to base (2 table spoons of lye, dissolved in the minimal ammount of water)extract with naphthamy mistake the first time where that i added the magnesium sulphate while the soup was still esentially at boiling temp (probably ripped apart the alkaloids, had a similar experience when i tried to add zinc to a different boil) and too much water was used (added too much trying to compensate for the boil off and did not check the total, this means that the saturation level could not be reached)so here is to round two.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="anonenium, post: 3632873, member: 19540"] just posting a update the last attempt was a partial failure (i know i can do better anyhow the results test 1 pre shredded 457mg from 25g of bark +/- 3mg test 2 whole bark 472mg from 25g of bark +/- 3mg so from 50g of bark thats about 930 mg of bark, comparable to standard sodium chloride results, but no trace or is coloured alkaloids showed up, which is interesting because that means with the trace artifacts this number should go much higher. what came out was absolutely crystal clear (if anyone has seen pictures of those "diamonds" thats what appeared) i am reattempting this test again, same parameters 250mg deionized watch 50mg 5% acetic acid 25 g from two sources acid boil for one hour each 70g magnesium sulphate (ONCE FULLY COOLED) conversion to base (2 table spoons of lye, dissolved in the minimal ammount of water) extract with naphtha my mistake the first time where that i added the magnesium sulphate while the soup was still esentially at boiling temp (probably ripped apart the alkaloids, had a similar experience when i tried to add zinc to a different boil) and too much water was used (added too much trying to compensate for the boil off and did not check the total, this means that the saturation level could not be reached) so here is to round two. [/QUOTE]