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MAOI (B.Caapi) And Mushrooms?

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TheReadyAwakening

TheReadyAwakening

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I'm curious as to how the MAOI's found in the Caapi vines weill potentiate a mushroom trip. Just got my hands on some McKenna red vine and want to try it with some fresh Cyanescens!

I know the MAOI's in caapi affect different chemicals, though I've always heard it affects psilocybin, psilocin, etc. Anyone have any trip reports or advice when mixing these two sacred organisms?
 
My cat ate some syrian rue and a quarter of mushrooms. The man was on the streets yelling on the top of his lungs. He said he would come in and out of his body, all he could do was repeat himself over and over again "I'm at the end of my management."
 
Recycled_Solvent said:
My cat ate some syrian rue and a quarter of mushrooms. The man was on the streets yelling on the top of his lungs. He said he would come in and out of his body, all he could do was repeat himself over and over again "I'm at the end of my management."
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Maybe your cat shouldn't have taken 7 GRAMS of mushrooms with an MAOI? That is quite a dose by itself, I hope that wasn't the first time putting the two together.

To the op, I've read both good and bad reports, but mostly positive. But of course even if we were just talking about one substance I could have read both good and bad reports. Best to proceed with caution and start out low on the dosage instead of say I dunno, 7 grams :)
 
Smoking caapi leaves on a mushrooom trip has subtle but very noticable effects, very short lived though

I have recently made a 12g caapi leaf extract, evaped onto around 2g of caapi leaf, i will smoke it on a mushroom trip & report back
 
yeah, smoking caapi leaves on mushrooms is nice. never added extra harmalas in the smoke, though it sounds like a good idea, Chronic

as far as oral MAOI and mushrooms, i remember mckenna saying that half an ayahuasca dose with half of a mushroom dose was too much and not enjoyable for him..he said it was better to take a full dose of the MAOIs and then start off with small amounts of mushrooms
 
When tripping with mushrooms, and I usually only trip with natural grown Semilanceatas and I always use 3grs Harmala to experience the real power and potential of the mushrooms.
Its so much more spiritual and going far deeper than mushrooms alone, even in a high dose.
But you have to be careful. My highest dose was 2grs. of fresh dried Semilanceata with the usual 3grs. Harmala, ego death included.

The effects of the shrooms are not doubled, they are more like 5 times as strong than usually with a MAOi present.
 
I ate 3g of syrian together with 30 Top flat mushrooms, 30 is usually small/medium dose for me.

But i would that time was like eating 50 of them plus it lasted alot longer, very powerful indeed.
 
It's an interesting combo for sure, my preference these days would be some caapi tea followed by powdered dry or fresh mushrooms, makes the experience more powerful and longer lasting, and the experience is distinctly different, very deep. Be careful how you dose with this combo, especially when using Rue.
 
I much prefer ayahuasca with mushrooms than rue.

As I only have access to cubensis, they can feel toxic enough for me if the dose is high enough. 50g white ayahuasca with 2g of cubes however, is very clear and can last for up to 9 hours for myself.

I find the afterglow headspace with this mixture to be even more beneficial than ayahuasca with a DMT admixture. When my next batch of mushrooms has finished growing I'm finally going to try 100g white with 1g of cubes and 100mg DMT fumarate. I'm quite looking forward to this one, as I find smoking DMT on mushrooms to be very grounding :)
 
My only experience with this was 50g of cielo vine, with a tiny bit of mimosa..then about a gram of mushrooms if that an hour or so later..and smoked changa as the mushrooms were hitting..it got very very intense for a period of time, but was a great experience.
 
According to Dennis McKenna's experience in La Chorrera, the resonance of the psilocybin molecule and harmine will cancel eachother allowing a super-conductive bond of the harmine to DNA and the mushroom.

The effect of all this is for you to interpret...the "Other" perhaps will open its doors.
 
dream_denizen said:
According to Dennis McKenna's experience in La Chorrera, the resonance of the psilocybin molecule and harmine will cancel eachother allowing a super-conductive bond of the harmine to DNA and the mushroom.

The effect of all this is for you to interpret...the "Other" perhaps will open its doors.
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I wonder what that is supposed to mean :roll:
 
fractal enchantment said:
My only experience with this was 50g of cielo vine, with a tiny bit of mimosa..then about a gram of mushrooms if that an hour or so later..and smoked changa as the mushrooms were hitting..it got very very intense for a period of time, but was a great experience.
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you don't mess around.
 
NO personal experience... but that is the same exact recipe that put one of the wiser, more experienced members of this forum in the hospital for a panic attack (he will probably chime in himself, but if not just search THH and mushrooms and hospital)....he sensed impending doom. I believe that it was T. Mckenna that wrote about a lasting serotonin-related disorder from a heavy combo of mush and vine.


Fear not... just go on aware and post a report good or bad.

when in doubt..... go for it anyway :) unless its RCs
 
I've also combined caapi, DMT (in freebase form, extracted from mimosa) and mushrooms together a few times, and had incredibly powerful, incredibly blissful and incredibly beautiful experiences, really earthy and deep. The second time, the build up to the purge was very intense and felt very menacing indeed, like a dark thunderstorm was literally filling the room around my head. The purging was incredibly deep and an utter revelation unto itself. I'm usually pretty quiet when I purge (everyone seems to vary!) but on this occasion I roared, I mean really roared, as I purged. The change in mindset...going from hyperventilating, with extremely dark and menacing vibes on the brink of panic, to complete and utter bliss, saturated in liquid light was also amazing. It was really strange was when myself or my friend tried to smoke marijuana, the combo was VERY disapproving and the experience go darker and we would feel sick when we tried to. Was a funny night, that one. 😉
 
justine said:
dream_denizen said:
According to Dennis McKenna's experience in La Chorrera, the resonance of the psilocybin molecule and harmine will cancel eachother allowing a super-conductive bond of the harmine to DNA and the mushroom.

The effect of all this is for you to interpret...the "Other" perhaps will open its doors.
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I wonder what that is supposed to mean :roll:
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Apparently it has something to do with the resonances of each molecule responding to each other in an extraordinary way in humans. Thus inducing Dennis' shamanic state in La Chorrera. He broke the experience down into alchemical phenomena, altering states of consciousness by voicing the harmine resonance.
 
The other day I tried 2.2g's mushrooms and smoked changa during the peak.The Changa consisted of 22x Caapi,Impepho and spice.Effects lasted a lot longer than usual.Synergistic in a totally new way.Mushrooms keapt me grounded while the Changa was a way to dive in deeper.All this was done in a beautiful forest setting.This is probably my favourite combo.
 
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