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mescaline extractions with naptha

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285mg of "mescaline freebase."

I started out doing 69Ron's food safe limonene tek but after evapping the vinegar containing mescaline acetate in the oven all SWIM got was some inactive brown powder. 120mg produced no effects.

So SWIM decided to base the vinegar layer to excess, and repeatedly extract with naptha, finishing with a slow evaporation, and here it is- yeild 285mg

SWIM will return to the mother solution for more pulls.
 

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I just did a quick bit of research and saw a guy saying that there are "plenty of teks on the internet using petrol type solvents" but later, somone saying "But alas mescaline freebase is insoluble in naphtha but soluble in xylene." ... Well, contrary to popular beleif, something here IS soluble in naptha, for sure.

From what I've read, mescaline freebase isn't amazingly soluble in naptha... suggesting that there is a lot more to be had from my mother liquor. for 100g of cactus there should be about 1.2g of mescaline in there in total - but this is how SWIM works, Extract, take a break, gather, weigh. Go back to the mother liquor, extract some more.

No, i've not tested the yeild, yet, could this be almost entirely comprised of other alaklaoids from the cactus? If there is a better way of landing the final product hexane, diethyl ether, or what have you- let me know.
 
shoe said:
why wouldn't it work, hyperspacing?

Mescaline freebase is soluble in the non-polar layer. No, i've not tested the yeild, yet, but I am almost 100% sure that it is mescaline freebase. It couldn't be anything else with a reaction this simple.
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Freebase mescaline is purported not to be soluble in naphtha. But you may be right. Still, you cannot be 100% sure or even close to it if you don't try it yet, no? Anyway, if it is mescaline freebase it should be very easy to melt to an oily substance even at temperatures over 35 C.

But I am still curious. You took the vinegar pull (that, if evaporated would leave some brown residue that is inactive at 120mg) and instead of evaporating it you based it t=with loads of NaOH and then you pulled with naphtha? If that really is mescaline freebase then this is very nice development! It would show that mescaline may not be pulled with naphtha from a relatively complex environment (cactus material etc etc) but it can be pulled from a very simple environment, e.g. vinegar, mescaline acetate and other acetate alkaloids. Please keep us updated with any bioassays!

Also, a dose of 120mg of impure acetates (that may contain as much as 0 mescaline acetate...) is no surprise if it produces no effects. SWIM for once needs at least 400mg cleaned up mescaline hydrochloride to feel effects and anything below this is just pffffff....
 
Wow, this is awesome. I am stoked to let you know what happens....
I don't understand though why I am the first person on the nexus to have done an B/A/B - Calcium hydroxide, Limonene, Vinegar, Lye, Naptha -
surely this is a fairly simple proceedure? If you're right, infundibulum, then most others would have attempted CaOH/Naptha and failed.

Infundibulum: You quoted me before I edited the post; have a quick scan at the original.

The rediculous thing is, when I did that extraction from the acetate containing vinegar, I didn't even warm the solution!
I have another pull on the way which was warmed!
 
shoe said:
Wow, this is awesome. I am stoked to let you know what happens....
I don't understand though why I am the first person on the nexus to have done an B/A/B - Calcium hydroxide, Limonene, Vinegar, Lye, Naptha -
surely this is a fairly simple proceedure? If you're right, infundibulum, then most others would have attempted CaOH/Naptha and failed.

The rediculous thing is, when I did that extraction from the acetate containing vinegar, I didn't even warm the solution!
I have another pull on the way which was warmed!
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Can you try to see if this pull can be freeze-precipitated??
 
we'll find out tomorro!

it smells odd, slightly floral, yet strangely unknown to me. nothing like DMT. not like indole, since it isn't.
 
Low odor white spirit is heavy naphtha. Maybe people have normally tried extracting with light naphtha which couldn't pull any of the goods. Is mescaline more soluble in heavy than light?
 
DoingKermit said:
Low odor white spirit is heavy naphtha. Maybe people have normally tried extracting with light naphtha which couldn't pull any of the goods. Is mescaline more soluble in heavy than light?
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Theory predicts that mescaline tends to be less soluble in heavy naphthas, but who really knows without trying?
 
This morning swim dosed up 180mg in two capsules on an empty stomach,
dosed at 1:25pm and headed out to the hills. at about 2pm, feeling no particularly notable
effects or visuals, SWIM dosed an extra 100mg of this stuff dissolved in coca-cola; bringing
the total dose to 280mg.

After a day of walking, (its now 4:20pm) there are still no visuals, no alteration in thoughts,
or anything particularly noticable at all.

SWIM is has just ingested another 100mg of the inactive yellow crystal,
plus another 200mg of the inactive brown powder, so hopefully SWIM can have some kind
of mescaline experience by the end of the day.

SWIM sincerely hopes it all doesn't kick in at once and total a trip of ~680mg.

SWIM can't understand how, if its a cactus extract, and it's crystaline, how can it not
be some form of alkaloid??

On the plus side: SWIM met some nice horses, and collected plenty of bramble berries! nom!
 
shoe said:
This morning swim dosed up 180mg in two capsules on an empty stomach,
dosed at 1:25pm and headed out to the hills. at about 2pm, feeling no particularly notable
effects or visuals, SWIM dosed an extra 100mg of this stuff dissolved in coca-cola; bringing
the total dose to 280mg.

After a day of walking, (its now 4:20pm) there are still no visuals, no alteration in thoughts,
or anything particularly noticable at all.

SWIM is has just ingested another 100mg of the inactive yellow crystal,
plus another 100mg of the inactive brown powder, so hopefully SWIM can have some kind
of mescaline experience by the end of the day.

SWIM can't understand how, if its a cactus extract, and it's crystaline, how can it not
be some form of alkaloid??

On the plus side: SWIM met some nice horses, and collected plenty of bramble berries! nom!
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Well, it might be some form of alkaloid. Maybe one that is not active the way SWIY used. At least we know that it is not mescaline.

The curious thing is that SWIY extracted loads of it, one'd assume that only traces would be to be found.
 
you should save it and do some experiments when you are sure you have mescaline..take the mescaline once or twice..then again take the same dose and add some of this crystal to it and see if it synergises in any way with the mescaline.
 
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