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mql2024

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Hi everybody, I'm rather new to the site, I mean I've been here a while but I just now started to toss around ideas, successes i've experienced personally and try to obtain insight regarding lingering questions . Today's subject matter revolves around the material of the containers throughout the process. I'm very very clear that avoiding plastics is in your best interest unless you are informed of which plastics can handle the situations that they would be in. I've seemed to comfortably settle into a straight to base routine and I'm doing indescribably well of from what I hear LOL. I surely think the same thing myself, but I've been having a hell of a time dealing with the sizable amount of root that I'm processing and recently I've invested in a 4 gallon mason jar that was fairly expensive, extremely fragile and shattered when moved, cautiously mind you and created quite a messy disappointment to say the least. This container that I speak of I only utilize during the first one or 2/3 of the process and then everything gets separated off into other more manageable vessels that I find work ideally for me. I'd like to know if it's okay if I begin my straight to base process in a metal container or if that's a no-no. If anybody could give me some insight on that it would be greatly appreciated. And I thank all of you for your contributions!!
 
Depends on the metal ... Aluminium is right out as it will react quite vigorously with a strong base to give off hydrogen.

Food grade stainless steel should be ok though, as far as I know.

just as metal isn't just "metal" so with glass: you want to find borosilicate glass vessels as they withstand thermal shock much better and are generally stronger. The normal sort of glass is known as "soda glass" and will slowly weaken under exposure to a strong base, as well as having a relatively large coefficient of thermal expansion which means it can't take thermal shock very well.
 
Depends on the metal ... Aluminium is right out as it will react quite vigorously with a strong base to give off hydrogen.

Food grade stainless steel should be ok though, as far as I know.

just as metal isn't just "metal" so with glass: you want to find borosilicate glass vessels as they withstand thermal shock much better and are generally stronger. The normal sort of glass is known as "soda glass" and will slowly weaken under exposure to a strong base, as well as having a relatively large coefficient of thermal expansion which means it can't take thermal shock very well.
Very nice, thank you! Definitely good to know about the aluminum. Have a good Day Happy New years
 
Hi everybody, I'm rather new to the site, I mean I've been here a while but I just now started to toss around ideas, successes i've experienced personally and try to obtain insight regarding lingering questions . Today's subject matter revolves around the material of the containers throughout the process. I'm very very clear that avoiding plastics is in your best interest unless you are informed of which plastics can handle the situations that they would be in. I've seemed to comfortably settle into a straight to base routine and I'm doing indescribably well of from what I hear LOL. I surely think the same thing myself, but I've been having a hell of a time dealing with the sizable amount of root that I'm processing and recently I've invested in a 4 gallon mason jar that was fairly expensive, extremely fragile and shattered when moved, cautiously mind you and created quite a messy disappointment to say the least. This container that I speak of I only utilize during the first one or 2/3 of the process and then everything gets separated off into other more manageable vessels that I find work ideally for me. I'd like to know if it's okay if I begin my straight to base process in a metal container or if that's a no-no. If anybody could give me some insight on that it would be greatly appreciated. And I thank all of you for your contributions!!
Way back when in my pre-Nexus days I had a one gallon sweet (candy) jar pop its bottom off due to my incompetent application of a heat bath. What saved the day was having a large stainless steel stew pot as the water bath. This was - very fortunately - large enough to contain the extraction, so I just carried on with the pulls straight out of the pot once I'd removed the broken jar. I think the cracked-off base of the jar remained in the extraction, since that would have been too messy and inconvenient to fish out.

So, as you probably now realise, having suitable secondary containment for your corrosive, flammable sludge in the event of failure of the extraction vessel is something of a must. Also, we would consider a four gallon extraction to be excessively large anyhow:
Attitude Page#No commercial-scaled extractions and reckless "spreading".

No commercial-scaled extractions and reckless “spreading”

The Nexus is not a place for commercial operations and we do not want to support drug dealers; we believe in using these substances for personal use.

If and when sharing these substances, we believe that it has to be done without money or other payments involved, with a careful approach and care when facilitating the introduction and/or experience of others.

It is imperative to take care that the person ingesting has no contraindicating medical/psychological history, takes it in a proper set and setting, and correct dosage/method of ingestion. This cannot be done if the substances are spread on a large scale. We do not want to "turn on the world", those who are ready will seek it. Indiscriminate spreading of psychedelics can lead to potential serious damage to people and is a big legal liability. Big extractions (and the preparations leading to it and gathering of materials) can attract the attention of the Law.

Spreading of the message of psychedelics itself through superficial YouTube videos showing use or extractions can also cause a lot of damage to the community (as happened with salvia) and is frowned upon.
Not saying this what you were actually intending, but consider at least that four smaller, concurrent extractions are likely to be easier to handle than one gigantic one. It also helps in cutting your losses in the event of a mishap, as well as reducing the severity of something like a solvent fire or explosion.
 
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