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Thanx to brother Hyperspace Fool, one of my typically verbose rants, has birthed this intriguing thread. I'm lovin' the direction this discussion is heading. joedirt raises some very fundamental ideas, as to the mental framework which so preoccupies our thought-processes. And so, eloquently prescribes Vipassana as a clear methodology towards mindfulness and development of a innate capacity to find the root-cause of all of these circulating thoughts, dispassionately examine them and release them into the emptiness from whence the were initiated, with our active participation. By examining ourselves, looking into the mirror of our souls, we peer into just one of the masks worn by the Divine.

Theravada Vipassana is the closest thing we have to the original doctrine of the historic Gautama Buddha. I've enjoyed training within it's mindful parameters. Personally, my path has drawn me more in the direction of the Mahayana Buddhist traditions, for whatever reason. I've been a devotee of Ch'an/Seon/Zen Buddhism for some time now.

For those Nexians less familiar with the complexity and myriad aspects of the Buddhist faith and it's many schools of thought, suffice it to say that ALL of them turn the observation and conceptual formatting of the individual witness to the process of sentient life, back towards oneself. We are within the center and fulcrum of this cyclone and we are both, the source and the initiators of our own dreamscapes.

I think we might gleam some very insightful methods towards the aim of a more spiritual perception of existence. I have used many, many methods over the decades and as Hyperspace Fool states, there are quite a number of them. Each can be most useful to (as the Zen folks say), "stop the mind". By such the conscious suspension of our interior mental dialog, we come closer to our truest nature, No Mind.

We are all born in this open state of perception, so why not become REBORN into this sublime state of receptivity? Obviously, the mind is never truly "stopped"... rather, within the continual cycling of our direct intention, it is brought back to the empty center. Zero. IMO, by bringing our focus to this single point of expansive clarity, said MIND better serves the brain which hosts it. :idea:

I think it is fair to say, that all paths lead to the summit of human awareness. There are significant differences between the form (or even the formlessness) of the varied approaches, but of course. Still, one of the primary points I was trying to get across on the other thread, is that by bringing these meditative methods and awareness-expansion technologies, to the very forefront of the discussion of Spirit, we might clearly and sufficiently, see the core principles at play.

They each have so much in common (despite their uniquely fascinating characteristics), within humanity's deep brain functions, that there may well be enough data to cohesively examine and codify this knowledge, into a holistic system... or even, a "SCIENCE" of the spiritual realms of existence. A Sacred Science, if you will?

Honestly, when I gaze up at the Milky Way above, I see the handiwork of the Divine. This doesn't mean I don't also want to know something of the rational science of it's pragmatic attempts at measurement, mapping and study. This points the way to a balanced stance of inquiry and therefore, cries out for an Omni-Science. We a very curious monkeys, after all.

There, I said it and lightning didn't strike me dead! Frankly, I have always felt that it was the greatest irony, the needless struggle between the illusory concept of spirituality -VS- science. That being, these regions of study caught in some kind of juxtaposition to one another. All of these methods were and still are, part of very ancient and definitive sciences. Before the Age of Reason, these were some of the primary sciences, along with linguistics, astrology, philosophy and medicine.

I guess what I am driving at is this, the collective of these methods lead towards a concise cluster of aspects and characteristics. Each has the potential to catapult our awareness into new territory and redefine the known territories we have been rationally conditioned to be cognizant of as reality. In short, they all bring us right here, in the NOW. This moment is all that exists... and we come to find that it has multiple levels and appearances. But all is still existent within the Present, the eternal and the quintessence of what we humanoids name with words as, God/the Sacred/ the Tao/the Spirit.

To borrow a quote from a most wise and brilliant human being, Alan Watts, "This is it." BTW, this was also one of the titles to an excellent book of his. Alan rocks!!! 8)

<blockquote data-quote="Rising Spirit" data-source="post: 3507384" data-attributes="member: 4216">Thanx to brother Hyperspace Fool, one of my typically verbose rants, has birthed this intriguing thread.&nbsp; I&#039;m lovin&#039; the direction this discussion is heading.&nbsp; joedirt raises some very fundamental ideas, as to the mental framework which so preoccupies our thought-processes.&nbsp; And so, eloquently prescribes Vipassana as a clear methodology towards mindfulness and development of a innate capacity to find the root-cause of all of these circulating thoughts, dispassionately examine them and release them into the emptiness from whence the were initiated, with our active participation.&nbsp; By examining ourselves, looking into the mirror of our souls, we peer into just one of the masks worn by the Divine.&nbsp; Theravada Vipassana is the closest thing we have to the original doctrine of the historic Gautama Buddha.&nbsp; I&#039;ve enjoyed training within it&#039;s mindful parameters.&nbsp; Personally, my path has drawn me more in the direction of the Mahayana Buddhist traditions, for whatever reason.&nbsp; I&#039;ve been a devotee of Ch&#039;an/Seon/Zen Buddhism for some time now.&nbsp; For those Nexians less familiar with the complexity and myriad aspects of the Buddhist faith and it&#039;s many schools of thought, suffice it to say that ALL of them turn the observation and conceptual formatting of the individual witness to the process of sentient life, back towards oneself.&nbsp; We are within the center and fulcrum of this cyclone and we are both, the source and the initiators of our own dreamscapes.I think we might gleam some very insightful methods towards the aim of a more spiritual perception of existence.&nbsp; I have used many, many methods over the decades and as Hyperspace Fool states, there are quite a number of them.&nbsp; Each can be most useful to (as the Zen folks say), &quot;stop the mind&quot;.&nbsp; By such the conscious suspension of our interior mental dialog, we come closer to our truest nature, No Mind.&nbsp; We are all born in this open state of perception, so why not become REBORN into this sublime state of receptivity?&nbsp; Obviously, the mind is never truly &quot;stopped&quot;... rather, within the continual cycling of our direct intention, it is brought back to the empty center.&nbsp; Zero.&nbsp; IMO, by bringing our focus to this single point of expansive clarity, said MIND better serves the brain which hosts it.&nbsp; :idea: I think it is fair to say, that all paths lead to the summit of human awareness.&nbsp; There are significant differences between the form (or even the formlessness) of the varied approaches, but of course.&nbsp; Still, one of the primary points I was trying to get across on the other thread, is that by bringing these meditative methods and awareness-expansion technologies, to the very forefront of the discussion of Spirit, we might clearly and sufficiently, see the core principles at play.&nbsp; They each have so much in common (despite their uniquely fascinating characteristics), within humanity&#039;s deep brain functions, that there may well be enough data to cohesively examine and codify this knowledge, into a holistic system...&nbsp; or even, a &quot;SCIENCE&quot; of the spiritual realms of existence.&nbsp; A Sacred Science, if you will?&nbsp; Honestly, when I gaze up at the Milky Way above, I see the handiwork of the Divine.&nbsp; This doesn&#039;t mean I don&#039;t also want to know something of the rational science of it&#039;s pragmatic attempts at measurement, mapping and study.&nbsp; This points the way to a balanced stance of inquiry and therefore, cries out for an Omni-Science.&nbsp; We a very curious monkeys, after all.&nbsp; <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="😉" title="Winking face&nbsp; &nbsp; :wink:" src="/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/nexus/unicode/64/1f609.png" data-shortname=":wink:" />&nbsp;&nbsp; There, I said it and lightning didn&#039;t strike me dead!&nbsp; Frankly, I have always felt that it was the greatest irony, the needless struggle between the illusory concept of spirituality -VS- science.&nbsp; That being, these regions of study caught in some kind of juxtaposition to one another.&nbsp; All of these methods were and still are, part of very ancient and definitive sciences.&nbsp; Before the Age of Reason, these were some of the primary sciences, along with linguistics, astrology, philosophy and medicine.I guess what I am driving at is this, the collective of these methods lead towards a concise cluster of aspects and characteristics.&nbsp; Each has the potential to catapult our awareness into new territory and redefine the known territories we have been rationally conditioned to be cognizant of as reality.&nbsp; In short, they all bring us right here, in the NOW.&nbsp; This moment is all that exists... and we come to find that it has multiple levels and appearances.&nbsp; But all is still existent within the Present, the eternal and the quintessence of what we humanoids name with words as, God/the Sacred/ the Tao/the Spirit.&nbsp; To borrow a quote from a most wise and brilliant human being, Alan Watts, &quot;This is it.&quot;&nbsp; BTW, this was also one of the titles to an excellent book of his.&nbsp; Alan rocks!!!&nbsp; 8)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Rising Spirit, post: 3507384, member: 4216"] Thanx to brother [b]Hyperspace Fool[/b], one of my typically verbose rants, has birthed this intriguing thread. I'm lovin' the direction this discussion is heading. [b]joedirt[/b] raises some very fundamental ideas, as to the mental framework which so preoccupies our thought-processes. And so, eloquently prescribes Vipassana as a clear methodology towards mindfulness and development of a innate capacity to find the root-cause of all of these circulating thoughts, dispassionately examine them and release them into the emptiness from whence the were initiated, with our active participation. By examining ourselves, looking into the mirror of our souls, we peer into just one of the masks worn by the Divine. Theravada Vipassana is the closest thing we have to the original doctrine of the historic Gautama Buddha. I've enjoyed training within it's mindful parameters. Personally, my path has drawn me more in the direction of the Mahayana Buddhist traditions, for whatever reason. I've been a devotee of Ch'an/Seon/Zen Buddhism for some time now. For those Nexians less familiar with the complexity and myriad aspects of the Buddhist faith and it's many schools of thought, suffice it to say that ALL of them turn the observation and conceptual formatting of the individual witness to the process of sentient life, back towards oneself. We are within the center and fulcrum of this cyclone and we are both, the source and the initiators of our own dreamscapes. I think we might gleam some very insightful methods towards the aim of a more spiritual perception of existence. I have used many, many methods over the decades and as [b]Hyperspace Fool[/b] states, there are quite a number of them. Each can be most useful to (as the Zen folks say), "stop the mind". By such the conscious suspension of our interior mental dialog, we come closer to our truest nature, [b]No Mind[/b]. We are all born in this open state of perception, so why not become REBORN into this sublime state of receptivity? Obviously, the mind is never truly "stopped"... rather, within the continual cycling of our direct intention, it is brought back to the empty center. [b]Zero[/b]. IMO, by bringing our focus to this single point of expansive clarity, said MIND better serves the brain which hosts it. :idea: I think it is fair to say, that all paths lead to the summit of human awareness. There are significant differences between the form (or even the formlessness) of the varied approaches, but of course. Still, one of the primary points I was trying to get across on the other thread, is that by bringing these meditative methods and awareness-expansion technologies, to the very forefront of the discussion of Spirit, we might clearly and sufficiently, see the core principles at play. They each have so much in common (despite their uniquely fascinating characteristics), within humanity's deep brain functions, that there may well be enough data to cohesively examine and codify this knowledge, into a holistic system... or even, a "SCIENCE" of the spiritual realms of existence. A Sacred Science, if you will? Honestly, when I gaze up at the Milky Way above, I see the handiwork of the Divine. This doesn't mean I don't also want to know something of the rational science of it's pragmatic attempts at measurement, mapping and study. This points the way to a balanced stance of inquiry and therefore, cries out for an [b]Omni-Science[/b]. We a very curious monkeys, after all. 😉 There, I said it and lightning didn't strike me dead! Frankly, I have always felt that it was the greatest irony, the needless struggle between the illusory concept of [i]spirituality -VS- science[/i]. That being, these regions of study caught in some kind of juxtaposition to one another. All of these methods were and still are, part of very ancient and definitive sciences. Before the Age of Reason, these were some of the primary sciences, along with linguistics, astrology, philosophy and medicine. I guess what I am driving at is this, the collective of these methods lead towards a concise cluster of aspects and characteristics. Each has the potential to catapult our awareness into new territory and redefine the known territories we have been rationally conditioned to be cognizant of as reality. In short, they all bring us right here, in the [b]NOW[/b]. This moment is all that exists... and we come to find that it has multiple levels and appearances. But all is still existent within the [b]Present[/b], the eternal and the quintessence of what we humanoids name with words as, [i]God/the Sacred/ the Tao/the Spirit[/i]. To borrow a quote from a most wise and brilliant human being, Alan Watts, [b][size=9]"This is it."[/size][/b] BTW, this was also one of the titles to an excellent book of his. [b]Alan rocks[/b]!!! 8) [/QUOTE]