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MHRB Tea with Rue report + Advice needed

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thepureskunk

thepureskunk

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Hey Nexus :)

Last week I had my first ever go with a MHRB and Rue tea. I did the clear-MHRB-tea-tek which is found here: https://mycotopia.net/forums/holding-tank/65136-clear-mimosa-tea.html

Its a wonderful way of getting a clear tea that actually doesn't taste that bad! I dosed the equivalent of 5g's of MHRB and I made a tea with 4g's of Rue.

I'll post a PM I sent to a friend as it describes the report:

"Hey man,

Well last night turned out rather weird! I'll explain what happened... In the end i couldn't find a hammer and i was talking to someone off the dmt-nexus (this person was endless on chat) and they suggested making a tea. So i went with 4g's of rue and did 3 boils with some lemon juice added for 30-40mins each boil. I then combined each boil and reduced to around 30ml..it was a sickly yellow colour.

I drank this at 8.45pm and by 9.15 i was getting tracers off the candles i had in my bedroom so i thought all was well... I drank the 50ml of MHRB which had indeed gone clear and actually tasted ok...by 9.45 i hadn't got any real effects apart from yawning a lot. So i drank another 25ml of MHRB which meant i had now taken the equivalent of 7.5g's.

About 10pm my eyes got real heavy and it was difficult to keep them open. I was getting very, very faint CEV's but my mind was working overtime with many introspective thoughts. I found this quite useful and helpful but i wanted to see some colours and do some space travelling!

I was getting OEV's as when i could open my eyes it appeared very foggy in my room and shapes were distorting quite a bit, but i couldn't keep my eyes open as they were so heavy.

This continued to about 1am and then i went to sleep. No purge although my stomach didn't sound to happy lol.

What are your thoughts? I would have thought that with 7.5g's of bark i would be tripping proper. Maybe it was my rue prep but i was getting tracers from lights before i drunk.

Not really sure what happened. Thanks for reading and the help, peace!!"

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Some added points are the fact my bark is at least a year old (more like 18months and came from pedro in Brazil so is a fine powder), but has been in my freezer. I couldn't powder the Rue to make a tea with so i did the boils with whole seeds. Also i weigh 16st which is 100Kg-so did i take the Rue to soon or to little?

I just think i should have had a more full-on trip with the amounts taken. Has anyone got any advice they would like to share? Maybe my ego held me back as i was expecting more?

The person who i sent that message too say's that i should put the Rue into capsules and that will make the experience better...any thoughts on this?

I will be able to dose again on Wednesday night so any advice would be most welcome...

Peace :)
 
maybe dosing the mimosa that long after drinking the rue was too late to really kick in the brew. i drink the mimosa or take capsulated dmt 15 minutes after drinking rue, caapi, or just freebase harmala alkaloids..and that works great everytime.

also, try eating a little something like fruit after dosing to get digestion flowing. you might just be hard headed- some need a lot more than others..but it does sounds like it was kicking in, so you should probably dose quicker after drinking the rue. if that doesn't work, redose with a bit more of rue and a bit more of mimosa. redosing mimosa an hour after drinking rue might be too late and some might be getting broken down by mao, so adding some more rue can help

and your bark should be fine if its a year old, especially if it was stored in a freezer. I wouldn't cap rue seeds though like your friend said.. that sounds like nausea waiting to happen. Just stick the amount of seeds you want to brew into a blender, add water, let it sit overnight to soak, then blend it, and go brew it up :d
 
thepureskunk said:
Maybe my ego held me back as i was expecting more?
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Heh. No chance. If you had taken 7.5 grams of any normal MHRB tea, your ego would have been TOAST.

Yeah, that should've been a really intense experience. You were getting tracers from the rue, so MAO inhibition wasn't the problem. You just had a weak mimosa tea.

The fact that it was "clear" is certainly bothersome. I've done (more or less) the same tek before, but my teas were still deep red by the time they were fully reduced.
 
Thanks a lot for the replies, as it's really appreciated :)

The way i see it is:

Either i drank to late. Or my tea is weak.

My plan is to first of all take the same amount of rue and tea (5 grams worth) and dose the tea quicker to see what happens.

If that doesn't work I'll take the same amount of rue and increase the tea amount.

The tea is not really clear and not a deep red...more of a cloudy orange. I may take a pic if that helps...My concern is the bark has lost some potency as it is a really fine powder. I may do a extraction from 50g's as when i first got it i was getting nearly a 2% yield from it...would doing a extraction tell me if my bark has got weaker?

Thanks for reading :)
 
I disagree.

I am the person you PMed on mycotopia. Its the rue tea, it never leads to very strong effects even with a good dose of bark (for me). Try capping the rue like i said same dose of mimosa, it will be a HUGE difference.

Like i said i can almost garuantee its the rue not the mimosa, try capping it or at least upping your tea dose (your rue tea dose i mean, but still i recommend capping)
 
...rue tea for myself is easily powerful enough even on it's own without having to cap the seeds and swallow them..just drink the tea until you are feeling the effects enough from it that you feel like you are glued to the bed with that floaty feeling..then drink the mimosa...if you are not deep enough after that..then simply take a bit more rue and mimosa.

A clear mimosa tea is fine..and it is what you want. I always drink mimosa tea with rue or caapi, and I let it sit for a week or so and then decant it..it is definatily clear(transparent) but still a reddish purple color..still very active and it's been here for a year not even stored in the fridge(the bark that is, not the tea). I drank 4g of it this morning with 75g of caapi and trust me..there is no DMT loss:shock:
 
Yeah it cant be that your bark is old, because ive have 7+ year old bark that is just as active as the day i recieved it

Also i have left a mimosa tea in my fridge for over a year, and then drank it, it tasted just fine, and was still very active.

I would say if you do use the tea agian, just up the dose, and do what fractal said, drinking until you have a noticable harmala feeling, but i would still cap it
 
Harmalosa said:
I disagree.

I am the person you PMed on mycotopia. Its the rue tea, it never leads to very strong effects even with a good dose of bark (for me). Try capping the rue like i said same dose of mimosa, it will be a HUGE difference.

Like i said i can almost garuantee its the rue not the mimosa, try capping it or at least upping your tea dose (your rue tea dose i mean, but still i recommend capping)
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Hey man its great to see you here :)

Sorry if it seems that I haven't taken your word. I like to get a mix of opinions as it is the net after all!

I did another attempt on Tues night...

I didn't have caps so i ate 4g's of seeds in a couple of spoons of jam. 30 mins later I drank 60ml of MHRB which is around 6g's of bark. 30mins after this i wasn't feeling anything... so i went downstairs and got a slice of bread and butter.

After 5 mins i was tripping! I got the carrier wave but again the visuals didn't develop... Very faint CEV's but stronger OEV's. It was a nice trip with plenty of deep thinking. I got far less stomach discomfort so that was nice.. Trip lasted a good 4 hours.

I'm thinking now i need to up the dose of MHRB drink. What do you guy's think?

I would love a level 5 trip but feel as though i am at level 3.

Peace :)
 
^sometimes it is like that...lay down in the dark, you should at least get deep into the harmaline/harmine dreams at that level..other times the DMT might floor you a bit more..

If you plateau at the same place next time..simply..take a booster of mimosa. That always seems to work for me..
 
I won't claim to be an expert on the subject but all I know is that I experienced 2-2.5g mushrooms type effects off of 20 grams of bark, yes twenty. Taken 30 minutes after 3g rue.
On 150mg of jimjam. which would be 8-10g conservatively taken at the same time as 150mg of rue alkaloids gave me an 8+ gram mushrooms type experience. (report is on the nexus, it is IMMENSE!)

I am NOT trying to advise extraction over brew, what I am trying to advise is trying them together. Some people get far better effects waiting 20 or 30 minutes. I know that I get far stronger effects with them together though. (confirmed this with pharmahausca with harmalas then DMT too)
 
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