Microdosing Mescaline, inquiry on using it as a booster for creativity

[Aeris]

Hello, So I think I may have a right to post here ? ( I hope so )
So this is for talking low dose of mescaline ( microdosing ).

------------- INTRODUCTION ABOUT "me"

I'll introduce myself quickly, into self improvement, self realisation ( a bit of new agey stuff ), spiritual work ( meditation, self inquiry, discipline into my life ), doing mainly art at the moment . . not having a "mainstream job" ( but cause I can allow myself to do so at the moment )

Currently 27 ( from France ), I worked out most of my anxiety and bad habits in life, I feel I m in a good place, I can have some anxiety, but maybe related cause I smoked weed 6 years with tobacco ( and I m on month 6 out of it currently, I had 3 times where I did smoke ( cause context ), but no more neediness for smoking seams in me, I think the whole smoking thing is behind me, cause I find it very very unhealthy and I want a long healthy life )
I already eat super healthy, have good sleeps, and I m mostly working on art stuff and learning all days, especially since covid lockdown.

------------ MESCALINE INQUIRY

I follow erowid report and aswell :

Erowid Mescaline Vault

Information about Mescaline including basics, effects, dosage, history, legal status, photos, research, media coverage, and links to other resources.

erowid.org

Mescaline Trip: How to Take Mescaline, Dosage, & Effects - Third Wave ( mescaline )
Microdosing Mescaline Guide - Effects, The Mescaline Microdose & More ( microdosing mescaline )

I think I have a cacti extract ( brown, in distilled water )

So I didn't really follow the process. ( currently on a day 2 break. )

- I dosed for 5 consecutive days, something like 5 drops in the morning on an empty stomach.
( I would argue, it was close of 2-5µ of LSD in dosage at maximum : but I feel it, and it's absolutely not placebo. ) ( if weight is at play ? I m 57 kg 125.66 lb ) ( male )

> Don't know he seams I m maybe a "quick potentiator" ( having effects digested quicker and harder than most people )


After those 5 days ( first day I did a bit more than a microdose, something like 5 microdoses ), I started having trouble finding sleep the 5th day of using it. ( 2 days ago )
( had a bit of an overloaded head before sleep ) I smoked a tiny token of weed in a vape ( for finding sleep ) ( I could have dropped xanax but that was an experience to see if weed help comedown of the after effect and I prefer not using a lot of drugs ( even weed was too much )

- I had to do weird nap yesterday and today ( and the one of this afternoon seamed to give me sleep apnea and weird dreams ( can that be related to my mescaline usage ? )

- I aswell do that because I have a mild case of ADHD ( if this exist, cause I m highly doubtful, I just call that my persona and epigenetic ) ( and as a result, can hardly focus on things more than 30 min, in multiple parts )

Hamilton Morris say there is no withdrawal from psychedelic ( really .. ? ), but I call that withdrawal what I m experiencing. ( having an heavy head and weird sleep patterns ) aswell my cognition seams less clearer the days I don't do it ( it may be not related though, I really need MORE experience with the overall inquiry )


On a pharmacological perspective, does the brain become depleted from chemicals hardly by using mescaline ? can we say it's a mild case of doing mdma ? ( or this do something completely different ? )
Can mescaline be compared to using amphetamine ?

| Aswell I always had very hard crash on coffee ( that's why I avoid it ) like clugging my nose and absolutely fucking my sleep patterns. I don't know why, but coffee is really not working with my body.

So thank you guys for your futur sharing, I m open to inquiry and integrate any kinds of data that may help me with the trial of mescaline in low dose. ( I'll maybe do even more low doses, and maybe do the practical in the guide on 3rd wave website. ) / which is Doing 1 day in, 2 days off.

may love & force follow - AvE

 

[Artguy]

very interesting, I'm very curious about your extract, did you make it? buy it? any more details would be helpful, sounds pretty cool

 

[Aeris]

very interesting, I'm very curious about your extract, did you make it? buy it? any more details would be helpful, sounds pretty cool

Hello, it's a friend into bio/organic and farm type of thing ( So I trust him ) he use to be my weed dealer long time ago ( hippie type )

here is a video he sent me before sending me : ( so I don't know exactly how it is made, maybe this answer your question though )

But I have no problem with synthetic extract or things like that ( if that's good synthesis ? )

signal-2021-04-29-095804 (1)

Watch "signal-2021-04-29-095804 (1)" on Streamable.

streamable.com

 

[Deltah]

I ate and smoked ganja for 25 years every day..that day came and I cheated on her, and we never meet again..I microdose 4aco dmt, LSD and amanita and understand very well what makes people look for a good mood every day. but it's like .running with crutches .. for those who are not capable of anything without them. only big water will teach you to swim .. and those who burn should not drown.
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[downwardsfromzero]

Hello and welcome.

That's an interesting experiment you've done.

You can't know that you've been taking mescaline [Edit: OK, I see there was a trustworthy friend involved in its production, but still...] without having isolated/extracted it in some way, nor how much may (or may not) have been in your microdoses. What species of cactus was used to produce your extract?

(I think I have a cacti extract (brown, in distilled water)

Considering you used a tea (incidentally - why the apparent uncertainty?) which will consist of a fairly complex mixture of components, it's difficult to ascribe the described effects directly to mescaline. Some other component or components could be equally responsible for the more-or-less adverse effects that you describe. The composition varies between - and even within - cactus species.

Fortunately, there are plenty of cactus- and mescaline-related resources here at the Nexus, if you care to look for them. So, have a browse and expand your knowledge about mescaline and cacti. I'm sure it will help you a lot.

Low doses of mescaline, say 100mg or so, can have an effect similar to MDMA, with facilitated communication and ease of socialisation but less forced and somehow more authentic. It would be very surprising if you were to get any kind of neurotransmitter depletion firstly because of the tiny dose you've been using - even considering your small/slender build - and secondly because mescaline doesn't do that. Some people do report feeling physically depleted after a full mescaline experience - not least, perhaps, from its long duration but also because the experience can simply be quite demanding and not all rainbow unicorns and candyfloss.

Overall, my gut feeling is that you are overthinking the physical experiences and may be bringing about a psychosomatic effect.

Have you been getting enough exercise lately? And what were your intentions at the exact time you were taking the drops? Did you use any kind of 'ritual', for want of a better word?

What other experience with psychedelics have you had?

 

[Aeris]

I ate and smoked ganja for 25 years every day..that day came and I cheated on her, and we never meet again..I microdose 4aco dmt, LSD and amanita and understand very well what makes people look for a good mood every day. but it's like .running with crutches .. for those who are not capable of anything without them. only big water will teach you to swim .. and those who burn should not drown.
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I know what you mean, but hey, can't beat life, can we ?

what's wrong with wanting to increase our daily qualia.

I've been on nothing for months, life wasn't better, neither bad, but it just what it is.

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Hello and welcome.

That's an interesting experiment you've done.

[..]

What other experience with psychedelics have you had?

Hey !
I've posted a video above ( not sure it can help ) I don't know what kind of cacti have been extract, will ask soon and get you back if I had an answer

-> I'll look into the psychosomatic effect, I know placebo can be hard, any advices on getting into a ritual to break my thought about believing I'll get some side effects ? ( if there is any way to makes a counter psychosomatic effect )

-> my experience has been : ( on 5 years )

- ' week trip ' : LSD 3 trip in water ( probably 400µ distilled on 10 days : and microdosed mixed with shroom with 7g of them precisely. ( so I had someday very trippy, and had a full blown trip this week, I use to do art at the same time, didn't wanted to be unconscious, it was mainly alone at home, so I wanted to not abuse . . . )

- I did shroom 2g x 2 days on a festival aswell
- mdma 6 times ( very hard roll )
- 2 CB : once 2 batman pills at home
- LSD : 2 times a roll alone at home
- lot of weed everyday for 6 years

// I did a year using ritalin 75 mg everyday. ( 4 years ago )


aswell I didn't precise, but I never do any kind of alcohol ( I use to get drunk only for a year at my 20, but put alcohol out for more weed instead, I don't like being drunk. )

I m not really into exercice as a person ( that's my cons. . I can be disciplined on mental affair )
( I use to be more sport when younger / martial art mostly ) , I do some push up, every 3 days, and some squat with it to not loose all my body and still look fit ( as I m quite fit, but being 5'7 and 57 kg )


aswell I try to takes long walk when I can, but didn't do much with month of lockdowns. ( I'll go more outside now that the sun is coming back aswell and lockdown over )

if by ritual you mean intention, not really, I have a "strict fluid discipline", between learning a langage ( korean atm ) and aswell doing music, drawing, and listening podcast / meditation ( but not so much recently )

my goal was just to see how my mood would be sort of different, aswell I feel I needed something, cause working all days in my home since 7 months now made me kinda "introverted".

I'll probably do more walks in the center of my city and met people soon ( that's the goal I want to have with my mescaline days for this summer ) socialize more again before I turn iper weirdo.

mostly the side effect I feel are "tiredness" but I can sleep on it, it's not as dramatic as a mdma roll after day.

maybe that's me, I know a cup of coffee for instance trigger withdrawal symptoms in me, and it's not psychosomatic at all, because I never thought I had crash from coffee when I used to do it years ago ( for several month of physical work ) ( but I had weird symptoms every night before sleep , and after all I started to inquiry on why, did I get a cold or something ? )
it was mainly from the coffee. ( a low quality one, but still ) and I didn't know anything about physical withdrawal from coffee, so weird. I heard others people having those symptoms with it too.

Maybe I have a body wired differently aswell, maybe I m super sensitive to drugs, that's possible aswell. I've heard people could have x5 sensitivity. ( maybe I m a lucky one ? )

LSD put me in total shamanic trance where I almost can't control anything in me without a strong strong strong will. ( but drawing canalise it when I use to become really overly insane ) with just 150µ I feel I had the 500µ ( maybe I m deluded, but I had full ego death on 100µ / while meditating tho )


( I didn't use mdma for the last 2 years, and didn't think I'll do again in the futur, unless very special occasion. )

 

[doubledog]

You seem being somebody with quite specific reactions to various substances, especially in terms of sensitivity, so any general informations about dosing could be misleading.

I know this personally, I am similar 100 mg of mescaline is medium dose for me, with some OEV and CEV. When I tried microdosing of LSD, dose of 8 mcg was too strong.
Within any group of people I have met, I am always one who feels the effects of any substance first, I am also the last being back to baseline and the one who never complains that it was weak. :d

If you are really this case, my general advice would be to divide any recommended dose you find on internet (including nexus) at least by two.

Regarding your microdosing protocol, if you are using cactus extract, you are not dosing mescaline, you are dosing cactus extract. You should also know more about its strenght. But you will find this by practise.

My experience is that some compounds in cactus could be quite harsh to the body, I definitely prefer purified alkaloid, but this is really individual.
Of course, your reaction to cactus could be very specific and maybe it is not for you.

 

[Deltah]

I ate and smoked ganja for 25 years every day..that day came and I cheated on her, and we never meet again..I microdose 4aco dmt, LSD and amanita and understand very well what makes people look for a good mood every day. but it's like .running with crutches .. for those who are not capable of anything without them. only big water will teach you to swim .. and those who burn should not drown.
.

I know what you mean, but hey, can't beat life, can we ?

what's wrong with wanting to increase our daily qualia.

I've been on nothing for months, life wasn't better, neither bad, but it just what it is.

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can we. we conquer life? a very good question to which Siddhartha Gautama Shakyamuni answered.

bad good very subjective concepts.


microdosing helped manage withdrawal symptoms and acted as a potent adaptogen .. now I only smoke changa and do not understand why there have been countless experiments with dob,doc,doi,2cb, 2ce, ketamine, dxe, mxe and 3meo pcp .. but the old days were wonderful experiences with 5meo dmt, 4aco dmt, 4ho met.. tryptamines changed me.

good luck and peace to your home!

P.S

if you look at paper through the eyes of a poet, you will understand that it contains all the elements on which the paper itself depends. on its snow-white surface, you will see clouds, forests, sun and lumberjacks. ."And if you look deeper, you will see in it not only clouds and the sun, but you will see that everything is here: wheat that became bread, food for the lumberjack, the lumberjack's father - everything is in this sheet of paper." the universe is a self-organizing network of endless .relationships, a symphony of interdependent becoming - and all this can become available through the smooth pearl-screen of one awakened mind

 

[Fruit is life]

Hey Delta, I am Intrigued as to how you might use amanita, do you mind sharing how you incorporate that mushroom into your toolbox?

I also found that microdosing any of the Tryptamines/analogs to be finicky, especially mescaline with its long duration, it's easy to undershoot the dose and remain stuck "out of tune" or incoherent/inbetween states.

What I have found to work well is a foundation of 4 x 30m meditation/mantra, yoga/asanas and excercise in nature + a raw fruit and leaf based diet . With that daily foundation I dose 150mg harmala alkaloids right upon waking and take 60mg of melatonin when the sun goes down, this will keep your right hemisphere "online", then it's necessary to resonate the lense clean so to speak and this is where DMT/analogs like mescaline come into play, every 4-7 days I dose dmt or psilocybin mescaline etc whatever your thing is, then apply the foundation practice and learn to navigate that altered state as functional as you could your biochemically impoverished "sober" state.

After the weekly pick me up the harmalas melatonin and foundation practice are more then enough to sustain enhanced functionality.

 

[shroombee]

What I have found to work well is a foundation of 4 x 30m meditation/mantra, yoga/asanas and excercise in nature + a raw fruit and leaf based diet.

Great foundation! I do something similar, also with journaling and cold showers (not vegan though).

With that daily foundation I dose 150mg harmala alkaloids right upon waking and take 60mg of melatonin when the sun goes down

60 mg of melatonin?!?! Are you sure that's correct? The standard dose is 1-3 mg. I take 1 mg timed release at bedtime, every other night.

Every 4-7 days I dose dmt or psilocybin mescaline etc whatever your thing is, then apply the foundation practice and learn to navigate that altered state as functional as you could your biochemically impoverished "sober" state.

After the weekly pick me up the harmalas melatonin and foundation practice are more then enough to sustain enhanced functionality.

I do a high dose of shrooms or mescaline every 2 weeks, giving myself the time in-between to eliminate any tolerance. What dose of shrooms/mescaline/dmt do you do every 4-7 days?

 

[Fruit is life]

Yes 60mg of melatonin, and 150mg harmala/day. At small doses melatonin works to regulate circadian rhythms, however at larger doses it has very different effects, the likes of which Tony Wright has outlined in his data @ Return to the brain of Eden. Working as a mind lubricant with an effect on microtubules, immune function, Neuro protective and works to modulate the way hormones transcribe the DNA etc engage the right hemisphere etc, very interesting. For me at 60mg it brings similar effects to harmala alkaloids with a tryptamine esque mind space, it also changes my sleep to what feels like a highly efficient sleep, reducing my total sleep needs by a few hours and if I do wake up I am in quite an altered state.

Mescaline I use ~350mg hcl that's the dose I like + a nights sleep deprivation and ceremonial grade cacao, great combo.

With mushrooms I like to keep it 2.5g or less + 150mg harmala alkaloids, if I want to dive deep I will vaporize DMT to resonate the superstructure to fuller capacity. For me it's all about coherency and functionality so I prefer mid range doses, I don't find tolerance to be an issue, 4 days seems to be enough.

 

[Deltah]

Hey Delta, I am Intrigued as to how you might use amanita, do you mind sharing how you incorporate that mushroom into your toolbox?

I also found that microdosing any of the Tryptamines/analogs to be finicky, especially mescaline with its long duration, it's easy to undershoot the dose and remain stuck "out of tune" or incoherent/inbetween states.

What I have found to work well is a foundation of 4 x 30m meditation/mantra, yoga/asanas and excercise in nature + a raw fruit and leaf based diet . With that daily foundation I dose 150mg harmala alkaloids right upon waking and take 60mg of melatonin when the sun goes down, this will keep your right hemisphere "online", then it's necessary to resonate the lense clean so to speak and this is where DMT/analogs like mescaline come into play, every 4-7 days I dose dmt or psilocybin mescaline etc whatever your thing is, then apply the foundation practice and learn to navigate that altered state as functional as you could your biochemically impoverished "sober" state.

After the weekly pick me up the harmalas melatonin and foundation practice are more then enough to sustain enhanced functionality.

Hey! my diet has been cutting out meat for a long time.
about melatonin is very interesting .. I have heard a lot .. a couple of years ago, when I was looking for a working nootropic for myself, I came across a lot of reports about this compound, a sort of sleep hormone.I am very interested in the yoga of dreams. a practice that uses sleep time for spiritual development can bring the insights of lucid dreaming into your main delusion, into this world...but my attention was focused on the racetams line .. after passing the information through the filter, I settled on the mushrooms hericium erinaceus and two representatives of amanitaceae pantherina and regalis. the synergy of these two mushrooms is amazing and works forthe whole body, and not limited to one central nervous system, clearly relieves the contraction of the muscles of the back and neck, the body gains some previously unseen flexibility. The microdosing mode is 5 days of work and 2 days of rest. The action of the fly agaric is interesting because it isworks with the active phase of dreams. for a while I mixed dissociatives with psychedelics and these interactions gave incredibly deep trips..preoral ganja after a couple of hours 20 mg 3meo pcp and after an hour 20 mg 2 CE is my favoritesemi-synthetic mix. after half a year of using amanita in macro and micro dosages, it became clear that amanita is a clear dissociative, this led to the fact that it would not be bad to combine the mushroom with psychedelic and I did it with changa on harmal .. while aI have five trips, but not in the active phase of the amanita as a dissociative, but on the stimulating component, the delay in hyperspace increased slightly ... but at the stage of the amanita as a dissociative, I still did not dare to take changu