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Have been wondering the same thing recently.
By looking at the leaves it does sort of look like Morning Rose but the problem is Are they active?
I can't say I know my shit with this...but my highly professional research on Google showed that the best way to be sure they are active is buy them.
Buy the species you know are active plant, wait, profit!?!?
Or get the seeds, extract and observe under black light.
If anyone has any advice I would also greatly appreciate.
Also I think this is the wrong place to post this.
By looking at the leaves it does sort of look like Morning Rose but the problem is Are they active?
I can't say I know my shit with this...but my highly professional research on Google showed that the best way to be sure they are active is buy them.
Buy the species you know are active plant, wait, profit!?!?
Or get the seeds, extract and observe under black light.
If anyone has any advice I would also greatly appreciate.
Also I think this is the wrong place to post this.
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Heavenly Blue Morning Glories are the MOST active: they are what you see most frequently.
Other common varieties include: Pearly Gates, Flying Saucers, Wedding Bells, Summer Skies, and Blue Stars.
I'm not sure from that picture what kind you have growing, since most people ID Morning Glories using the flowers.
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Other common varieties include: Pearly Gates, Flying Saucers, Wedding Bells, Summer Skies, and Blue Stars.
I'm not sure from that picture what kind you have growing, since most people ID Morning Glories using the flowers.
Blessings
~ND
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Um, there are certainly folks on here who are better qualified than I to help you but it seems like none have dropped in. What you have looks like morning glory but the leaves seem a little narrow to me and less heartshaped as compared to this:
It could be an Ipomoea species.. or it could be somethin related that is not active, as I have seen similar vines to MG before like that. Either way, seeds will come after flowers where the flowers fall off. They will be in small spherical capsules. Perhaps you could do some research and try and confirm what you have based on other botanical characteristics?
Edit: Woops. A little late.
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It could be an Ipomoea species.. or it could be somethin related that is not active, as I have seen similar vines to MG before like that. Either way, seeds will come after flowers where the flowers fall off. They will be in small spherical capsules. Perhaps you could do some research and try and confirm what you have based on other botanical characteristics?
Edit: Woops. A little late.
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I think what you actually might have may be a variety of Convolvulus arvensis or bindweed.
en.wikipedia.org
leaf > convolvulus arvensis - Google Search
I don't think it contains appreciable amounts of LSA. I read some 'he said she said' bumbling on other forums but no one seemed to really know what they were talking about. Here's a study on the plant I found:
From the phytochemical analysis: "Field bindweed was found to contain the
tropane alkaloids tropine, pseudotropine, and tropinine and the
pyrollidine alkaloids cuscohygrine
(25)and hygrine."
OP, the presence of tropane alkaloids makes me think you should be cautious and not ingest this plant without knowing more, as tropane alkaloids can be quite risky due to their dose sensitivity and toxicity. If still curious, a judicious test extraction would probably be the way to go, using a method that removes the unwanted compounds. I say you look for some true morning glories. Hope this helped.
Convolvulus arvensis - Wikipedia
leaf > convolvulus arvensis - Google Search
I don't think it contains appreciable amounts of LSA. I read some 'he said she said' bumbling on other forums but no one seemed to really know what they were talking about. Here's a study on the plant I found:
From the phytochemical analysis: "Field bindweed was found to contain the
tropane alkaloids tropine, pseudotropine, and tropinine and the
pyrollidine alkaloids cuscohygrine
(25)and hygrine."
OP, the presence of tropane alkaloids makes me think you should be cautious and not ingest this plant without knowing more, as tropane alkaloids can be quite risky due to their dose sensitivity and toxicity. If still curious, a judicious test extraction would probably be the way to go, using a method that removes the unwanted compounds. I say you look for some true morning glories. Hope this helped.
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bindweed was used traditionally in Europe as a purgative..but I don't think they used the seeds..foliage I think but I am not really sure and I have no idea how much they used. I would be very careful ingesting that stuff. "Purgative" can mean many things, including toxic.
Trust me I was looking into this like 5 years ago cus the stuff is everywhere. I even grow it(well transplant it from my yard) on my back deck cus it takes over the railings and looks nice. It is pretty invasive here. It seems to only contain low amounts of lysergic alkaloids and lots of other stuff.
Trust me I was looking into this like 5 years ago cus the stuff is everywhere. I even grow it(well transplant it from my yard) on my back deck cus it takes over the railings and looks nice. It is pretty invasive here. It seems to only contain low amounts of lysergic alkaloids and lots of other stuff.
Damn it, I might have Convolvulus arvensis as well, they spread like crazy on the fences on other taller plants.
It has the same white flower with a yellowish center and the leaf looks like that but those 2 upper edges are a bit more...apparent!??!
The only difference is that the ones in my garden seem too be smaller.
I still think buying some seeds is the easiest and most profitable way, and the safest one.
It has the same white flower with a yellowish center and the leaf looks like that but those 2 upper edges are a bit more...apparent!??!
The only difference is that the ones in my garden seem too be smaller.
I still think buying some seeds is the easiest and most profitable way, and the safest one.
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Did you end up gathering some seeds? The greatest way is to get the right seeds and grow them yourself and collect the harvest. Quite the spectacular sight during flowering. There is an entity about morning glory that you can definitely grow a relationship with.
I don't mean to thread-jack, but I also have a question about morning glories and I figured it would be better to ask it here than to start a new thread.
Anyway, my yard will be absolutely COVERED in Ipomoea purpurea this year. Stuff is worse than kudzu if you ask me. Of course, it wouldn't be so bad if I knew it had LSA in it. These are the ones with purple flowers, occasionally pink or white, but mostly purple. The seed pods have six seeds in them, sometimes five.
I've experimented with them three times so far, but this was last year and the year before, so my memory of these experiments is faded.
-2012: I ate 100 black (ripe) seeds raw and felt "off" some time after eating, but this feeling passed and I wrote it off as placebo. I felt some slight nausea, but nothing too bad.
-2013: I read somewhere that white (unripe) seeds were more potent and caused no nausea, so I decided to give it a try. I picked 250 unripe seeds and ate them raw. The taste wasn't nearly as bad as the ripe seeds, so I chewed them more thoroughly this time. I got no effects at all from this, not even nausea, so I decided to try again at double the dose.
-2013: I ate 500 unripe seeds the next day and had the same result as the 250 seed experiment. My stomach was pretty messed up the next morning, but that's about it.
After this, I decided that I should try 200+ ripe seeds after they ripened, but picking morning glory seeds is a tedious process, especially when you count every single one. I also wanted to do a cold water extraction on the next try, which involves grinding the seeds. That's another tedious process without a coffee grinder (I didn't have one at the time).
So, instead of doing this tedious process, I just decided to let it go and buy some HBWR seeds when I got the chance. However, I never did, so that curious itch never got scratched. I'm still very much interested in LSA, and still want to see what it's like.
Anyway... Is I. purpurea active? I remember searching for it, but I don't remember if I ever got a definitive answer. I just saw this thread and thought I'd ask here.
Anyway, my yard will be absolutely COVERED in Ipomoea purpurea this year. Stuff is worse than kudzu if you ask me. Of course, it wouldn't be so bad if I knew it had LSA in it. These are the ones with purple flowers, occasionally pink or white, but mostly purple. The seed pods have six seeds in them, sometimes five.
I've experimented with them three times so far, but this was last year and the year before, so my memory of these experiments is faded.
-2012: I ate 100 black (ripe) seeds raw and felt "off" some time after eating, but this feeling passed and I wrote it off as placebo. I felt some slight nausea, but nothing too bad.
-2013: I read somewhere that white (unripe) seeds were more potent and caused no nausea, so I decided to give it a try. I picked 250 unripe seeds and ate them raw. The taste wasn't nearly as bad as the ripe seeds, so I chewed them more thoroughly this time. I got no effects at all from this, not even nausea, so I decided to try again at double the dose.
-2013: I ate 500 unripe seeds the next day and had the same result as the 250 seed experiment. My stomach was pretty messed up the next morning, but that's about it.
After this, I decided that I should try 200+ ripe seeds after they ripened, but picking morning glory seeds is a tedious process, especially when you count every single one. I also wanted to do a cold water extraction on the next try, which involves grinding the seeds. That's another tedious process without a coffee grinder (I didn't have one at the time).
So, instead of doing this tedious process, I just decided to let it go and buy some HBWR seeds when I got the chance. However, I never did, so that curious itch never got scratched. I'm still very much interested in LSA, and still want to see what it's like.
Anyway... Is I. purpurea active? I remember searching for it, but I don't remember if I ever got a definitive answer. I just saw this thread and thought I'd ask here.
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Legit: from the experiences you describe, I think we can safely conclude that the I. purpurea that you grew was inactive 
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To my knowledge, I.purpurea is active with lysergamides. According to Wikipedia:
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An interesting thread, recently Ive been watching the I.purpurea bloom and usually sit and watch it while having a smoke.
Ive always thought it looked like some sort of plant entity , even with arms and a body, multiple vines reaching out.
Only today did I find out it was a morning glory and contains ergolines! Beautiful enchanting plant the flowers start off a royal blue and change to a violet as the day goes on. It looks like its in an epic battle with another invasive species. Cool plant.
Ive always thought it looked like some sort of plant entity , even with arms and a body, multiple vines reaching out.
Only today did I find out it was a morning glory and contains ergolines! Beautiful enchanting plant the flowers start off a royal blue and change to a violet as the day goes on. It looks like its in an epic battle with another invasive species. Cool plant.
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Alright, now lets all just take one step back here..
I've recently been reading Hoffmans encyclopedia on ipomoea spp, violacea etc.. and it appears that I.purpurea hasn't actually been found to contain lysergamides.. therefore, it makes sense that you did not feel any effects. It is best to stay clear of this one until proper investigations are taken place.
Tlitliltzin remains as it is.
Ah, yes DreaMTripper. A great sight indeed!
I've recently been reading Hoffmans encyclopedia on ipomoea spp, violacea etc.. and it appears that I.purpurea hasn't actually been found to contain lysergamides.. therefore, it makes sense that you did not feel any effects. It is best to stay clear of this one until proper investigations are taken place.
Tlitliltzin remains as it is.
Ah, yes DreaMTripper. A great sight indeed!
Heavenly blue morning glory has covered a 60 foot fence in the backyard my whole life.
Always lots of flowers but in like 10 or so years not a single seed pod has grown there.
i recently extracted several 1,000 wild morning glory seed, and they contained nothing.
i would say HBWR is the best way togo.
Always lots of flowers but in like 10 or so years not a single seed pod has grown there.
i recently extracted several 1,000 wild morning glory seed, and they contained nothing.
i would say HBWR is the best way togo.
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