My first Changa Mixture

[Bdevall158]

Greetings friends, I just wanted to share that I am currently awaiting for my first changa mixture to dry. I just wanted to ask if anyone has tried this particular mixture

1 gram yellow caapi leaves
1.5 grams yellow caapi vine
1 gram Mullien
1 gram Sacred lotus flower(adding after dry)

and 1.5 grams of freebase spice in this mix

I have a feeling that this mixture will be much more satisfying than my prior experiences with the FB spice alone. Its complicated enough for me to understand how to properly intake FB, but trying to teach and share with anyone else is just to annoying, stressful, and typically disappointing.

Also, any suggestions on how much might be a good breakthrough amount with this ratio would be awesome, but I will most likely start small and work my way into before sharing with others anywho.
Thanks

 

[jamie]

it's going to be a weak mix. I prefer 1/1 ratio..otherwise you have to inhale so much smoke.

 

[Bdevall158]

Indeed, I intend for it to be a tad bit weaker than just 1:1. From what I read it will allow the plant spirits to be more noticeable and interactive. I still have some drying to do, but I look forward to seeing how much will actually need to be smoked for quality experience.

If its too weak I may add more spice, I have about as much spice as herb all together. I wanted to save myself some FB just for the sake of having it, although Im just being lazy for now because I don't want to deal with the science of making more at this time.

From all the reading ive been doing now, FB just seems like loads of hassle ( keeping it cold, shelf life, perfecting vape technique, etc) and its certainly been tedious keeping my beloved stash protected from the elements of life. What is you guys opinion?, should I just ensure the safety of my FB and turn it all into changa? Or can someone give me a darn good reason to keep it all FB??

P.S. I fortunately have some mhrb for more in the future, im just so darn protective of what I have now. I have a strong feeling changa wont let me down, im just new to it, and seeing half of my "lifelong" stash disappear into herbs makes me nervous :surprised

I appreciate all feedback
love & light :thumb_up:

 

[Metanoia]

It will definitely be weak, probably too weak to achieve a full breakthrough from. You'd need to smoke quite a bit in a short period of time (about 60 seconds) to get strong effects from the blend.

That's not to say it won't be a good blend for 'testing the waters'. Probably a very good blend for introducing someone to DMT.

When I first started playing around with changa blends I started really small so that I could learn and see what works good for me. There's always that excitement when doing something for the first time that can override our sense of conservation

I rarely leave freebase laying around too long, but I much prefer changa to just freebase by itself. Even without harmalas a nice 'enhanced leaf' is what it's all about for me I do notice different herbs adding their own subtleties to the experience, so there's that aspect of it for some people.

 

[Bdevall158]

Awesome to hear, thanks for the feed back

This may be a silly and obvious question but if I wanted to add more spice, would I just do exactly what I did the first time? which by the way was just a soak in 60ml for 1.5 grams. I think I have about 2 more grams so I would use 80ml I guess?
I figure it wouldn't an issue but I just wanted to make sure that wouldn't mess anything up

this would result with 4:3.5 herb/spice, im hoping that would be plenty strong. The more I think about it now the more id rather not have to deal with the hassles of fb, as most of my friends and I prefer to be out in nature for our exeriences and with fb it rarely goes perfect

 

[Metanoia]

Yes, you can just dissolve more freebase in a solvent and evaporate that onto your blend.

Don't get me wrong, this blend that you've made could be very nice. It's not always about getting to that breakthrough level. But some people may find it frustrating in a way, if they're focused on 'going for the gold'

Maybe try adding another 1.5 grams of freebase and only 500mg of the blue lotus?

 

[Bdevall158]

Dioxipus you read my mind lol:grin: . I just resoaked 1.5 grams of spice, and I had 500mg of lotus in mind once its dried. I got this email 2 seconds after I put my blend in a safe spot to dry. So now im looking forward to 4:3 herb/spice ratio.

I as well don't always "go for the gold" as I travel much more frequently than my friends, but this should hopefully making first timers have a much easier experience. Not to mention taking the freebase pipe :thumb_dow out of the equation makes me feel way better, its always scares the piss out of me taking that thing anywhere

Thanks for the advice, hopefully I can post a report on the blend soon

 

[anrchy]

I made a 4:1 ratio and yes it's too weak.

You keep your FB cold?

I just keep it in a vial in a cool and dry place. (Where it doesn't get as warm as the rest of the house)

 

[Bdevall158]

Yeah im just over protective of my stash I generally just kept my long term stash in freezer and my one vial in use a little more accessable. Now its almost all in my change, so I wont be so freezer dependent :thumb_up:

 

[Bdevall158]

lol last post I meant to say It in my *changa*

 

[Metanoia]

Dioxipus you read my mind lol:grin:

Thanks for the advice, hopefully I can post a report on the blend soon

I think that ratio will be good. I often make blends that are less than 1:1 and they've almost always worked out well.

Please do let us know how it goes!

 

[Bdevall158]

question- my final product was about .3-.5 underweight, could some have possibly have stuck to the dish? I added a bit of IPA to the dish and rubbed down the sides, there was a light amount of green residue. I figure ill just let this IPA clean the dish and evap a bit and then add it to the mix again?

feedback appreciated

 

[anrchy]

That's what I did. After a day or two you can see some DMT recrystalizing. I put a small amount of ISO in, just enough to dissolve it, and dumped it right into the changa.

 

[Bdevall158]

and the change is a success Definatley more pleasant than outta a freebase pipe :thumb_up: