5 Dimensional Nick
"Full of multiversal flow!"
Dear Nexusers,
I am pleased to join this forum. My friend on this forum (not sure of his user name) said that this thing I wrote people here would LOVE. Also I "enjoy" smoking DMT on occasion!
Not got a lot to say about my experiences at the mo, save my first ever hit, which was huge was the most powerful experience of my whole life. I heard a quote about DMT saying that it was like "Load Universe into gun, aim at head, FIRE!". This is what my first smoke was like. I saw things I never even begun to imagine could exist, Alien planet vistas, hyper dimensional technology, other dimensions of space and time etc. It blew my frankly large use of all sort of hallucinogens into insignificance. Anyway. Nice to say hello to you all.
Here is the thing my friend said you'd like which is an extract from some discussion I was having on an artificial intelligence forum about how one could ever define what is "alive".
longmenshan wrote @ 1/31/2011 5:48:00 PM:
"the word conscious , intelligent is not what you have being thinking about
my idea is that true intelligence does not exist
but the traditional concept of intelligence still work, it is not so sacred ,holy as you may think to be, any thing(except man made machine) which we called life, should be called intelligent, because life is different from none-life materials"
life is different from non-life materials?
well... your saying a single cell organism is intelligent, or if not, at least alive?
where do you draw the line?
before single cell life there presumably was DNA, RNA, and organelles (little "organs" within cells) such as mitochondria, peroxisomes, lysosomes, nuclei and golgi apparati. all these are made of proteins, which are made of molecules, made of atoms, made of protons, neutrons, electrons etc.
these in turn are made of quarks etc.
given that the organelles themselves are in fact very complex structures and we keep splitting "fundamental" particles smaller and smaller, whereupon it is actually impossible to see their structure, could all these things be conscious, aware, intelligent, and/or complex in structure?
scientists have difficulty fitting viruses into their definition of life.
animism, one of the oldest religions on the planet held that all matter (rocks, trees, air, etc.) had a spirit.
there is nowhere to draw a line between life and non-life, and therefore intelligence and non-intelligence.
and i have no belief that intelligence or even life or myself is sacred and holy. EVERYTHING IS. or is not.
???
HOPE YOU ENJOY. see you around. 5DN
I am pleased to join this forum. My friend on this forum (not sure of his user name) said that this thing I wrote people here would LOVE. Also I "enjoy" smoking DMT on occasion!
Not got a lot to say about my experiences at the mo, save my first ever hit, which was huge was the most powerful experience of my whole life. I heard a quote about DMT saying that it was like "Load Universe into gun, aim at head, FIRE!". This is what my first smoke was like. I saw things I never even begun to imagine could exist, Alien planet vistas, hyper dimensional technology, other dimensions of space and time etc. It blew my frankly large use of all sort of hallucinogens into insignificance. Anyway. Nice to say hello to you all.
Here is the thing my friend said you'd like which is an extract from some discussion I was having on an artificial intelligence forum about how one could ever define what is "alive".
longmenshan wrote @ 1/31/2011 5:48:00 PM:
"the word conscious , intelligent is not what you have being thinking about
my idea is that true intelligence does not exist
but the traditional concept of intelligence still work, it is not so sacred ,holy as you may think to be, any thing(except man made machine) which we called life, should be called intelligent, because life is different from none-life materials"
life is different from non-life materials?
well... your saying a single cell organism is intelligent, or if not, at least alive?
where do you draw the line?
before single cell life there presumably was DNA, RNA, and organelles (little "organs" within cells) such as mitochondria, peroxisomes, lysosomes, nuclei and golgi apparati. all these are made of proteins, which are made of molecules, made of atoms, made of protons, neutrons, electrons etc.
these in turn are made of quarks etc.
given that the organelles themselves are in fact very complex structures and we keep splitting "fundamental" particles smaller and smaller, whereupon it is actually impossible to see their structure, could all these things be conscious, aware, intelligent, and/or complex in structure?
scientists have difficulty fitting viruses into their definition of life.
animism, one of the oldest religions on the planet held that all matter (rocks, trees, air, etc.) had a spirit.
there is nowhere to draw a line between life and non-life, and therefore intelligence and non-intelligence.
and i have no belief that intelligence or even life or myself is sacred and holy. EVERYTHING IS. or is not.
???
HOPE YOU ENJOY. see you around. 5DN