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My god, what a fucking place...

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shoe

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Okay, Sorry its a bit of a long one (again.)

SWIM Had the pleasure of returning to the DMT visions. Lately his lifestyle has changed and he hasn't been able to dive into the spice very often, which is both a good and a bad thing.

He now feels re-spiced and as if he's put things right in his internal world.
I think I have to emphasise that your spiritual life is AS important as your physical life. I think that the two are completely intertwined and unseperate. SWIM definately felt that the spice had been calling, quietely, too quietly perhaps, for a long time. far too long.

He finds living a spiritual life keeps him very contented in a way which cannot be achieved without exploring the utterly unknown and unknowable. He's probably just psychologically addicted to the utter thrill of exploring. but, FUN?! DMT IS FUN!?? he remarked earlier: "FUCK THAT, THIS SHIT IS OFF THE HOOK, WAAAY BEYOND "FUN" !!!" Take that however you wish, but mainly He means the realms that one can voyage into on DMT are so far beyond our ken that 'fun' really doesn't even come close, its waaaaaaay more serious than that:- You may be seduced by alien seductresses who gently massage your brain into infinity or you may hop into a trigonal-planar elf existance where everything you do spins and spirals off in a thousand millon different dimensions.... land of the echoes. a very, very confusing place to be.

so, a few sessions with the spice: main visions and things encountered included:

- sitting still at the desk, witnessing beingness inside beingness, everything was static and unmoving and unchanging, it was as if everything co-existed perfectly at one instant and it all sat perfectly together, through, over, ontop, for one moment. SWIM explored visions by altering his perspective of them. He also tried to follow teachings of bhudda and not to avoid nor to attract these things but merely to notice them. (see: the middle way)

There were very strange feelings of moving through different layers of this permamence, witnessing different acts and communications. It all felt very solid and very real which was a great feeling. I wound gather that this is something to do with SWIM's medidation and exploration of the tau - the great unchanging.... who knows. Its something which he's encountered many times on DMT. that sort of non-space where everything happens simultaneously, and by rotating your perspective, changing the way you view it, you can change what you are viewing without moving. hehe... "traveling... without moving..."

SWIM also spiced while sitting mediatatively, although admittedly he hadn't done much relaxation. He chased the feeling of travelling along inside himself, and felt all this other 'machinary' or visions of permamence (of the same type as the first session's visions, exactly the same as usual DMT type visions) being spun off as a kind of output of this chase. Eventually he isolated the feeling and that trip was over. He was then left in this part. Other visions and explorationnynessynesses: there were lots of voices coming out of the music, a great murmoring as if there were 10,000 people in his room, but that it was a vast hall.

SWIM hadn't spiced for a long time, and it was as if the room were full of hoards of spirits waiting to be healed, shamanstic explorations of the spice world. When SWIM reached for a meditative state above all of the suffering, he was able to heal them and the voices died down. SWIM doesn't know whether this was real or not real or imagined or spice-visioned or what, so please dont' be like "AHHh you can't heal people ..." I am counting on the love and the respect of the nexus members for this one. :)

Then, oh my great good god. That place. As SWIM said after he had 'exited'... "oh my god, that place, that fucking place." I have to emphasise this was said with a smile on his face, and a small laugh. It was a good kind of 'that fucking place.' a good hit of DMT was smoked standing up, and lately swim has been feeling these tiny twitches in his eyelids. It may be something to do with meditation, he isn't sure. (signs of progression toward enlightenment? energies which needed to be noticed? who knows.)

anyway, he smoked a good hit and felt his awareness appear and be sucked upward into a kind of cloud. (or maybe SWIM was appearing from a puff of smoke, but experiencing it backwards?) After all, everything was created in an instant... ?

Then, there was a bizzare and subtle moving of swims body, it flowed roundwards like he was moved out of the way, then, holy hell. he was in a different world. This place, i'd never seen this place before in my life. It wasn't the real world transformed (well, actually It was, but it was SO different that it was completely unrecognisable.)

Everything had this bizzare triangular spin to it. it was like looking through a kaledeoscope, but an infinite N-dimensional kalideoscope. Through fractal eyes. it was very confusing. Swim took a few steps forward - EVERYTHING, EVERYTHING was alive and minded. everything looked at him, with tiny eyes. It was insane. Every step swim took, created a spin and a bizzare crazy action of somekind, It was SO confusing. After a minuite SWIM found his way in this place and muttered something about unity, telepathically, that we are all one. It was as if swim was a magician and had just appeared in a completely different land in a puff of smoke. There was a slight vomiting after the experience, and swim ran to the toilet. The bile had eyes and faces and noses. Luckilly, swim had fasted for that morning (not intentional, but fortunate.) The toilet was completely covered with the 'fractal angel dmt' type patterns which alex grey paints. (you know those sexy alien gridlines?) SWIM thinks probably the vomiting was a neciessity in the crossover between the two worlds (if such a thing exists.) as if the slime somehow connected reality and unreality, or if it was all a part of the same thing anyway.

SWIM exited the trip somehow by learning that the way people actually get by in life, is not by being big and clever and pushing and demanding to be the centre of attention, but by quietly bumping past eachother with gentle 'sorries, excuse me's and pardons.
that way, SWIM was shown / or SWIM did... a number of quick steps which let him return to love, a partial vision of him and his girlfriend on the bed. He moved quietly and quickly like an old man, but the kind of old man who would easilly turn around and kick your ass with kung-fu, if love demanded it. It was as though SWIM had sunk through the noise and bustle of everything and learned a little way to move like a humble ninja. It felt great. It was necissary for us to be in love. (me and the g/f I think.)

Shortly afterward, SWIM spent the day making a wand from a short length of wood embued it with the druidic alphabet and tipped with a big amythest.

Totally incredible, "absoloutely profound", he muttered after coming back from that place.
bhuddas sitting inside bhuddas sitting isnide bhuddas sitting inside bhuddas sitting inside bhuddas....
alter ones perspective when viewing the all of everything to explore some other part of the gigantic mess - or - absoloute perfection, depending on which way you view it!

These trips have totally revitalised SWIMs interest in DMT, shamanism, meditation, and magick as perhaps the most profound and beyond interesting thing ever developed or discovered by man. This stuff really hints at something FAR beyond what we know and understand. It seems so obvious to swim that somone skilled in navigating these places really could effect change which is of some sibbolence as of yet completely unrecognised by leigons of scientists across the globe.

Perhaps stonehenge was placed there by a powerful magician eons ago, yet, right now, in this moment. There is no telling how much energy can come from the other worlds, there is no knowing the infinite.

Namasté everyone,
Peace & Wellness be with you.
 
Wow, shoe! Amazing reports, really amazing. I liked the "traveling... without moving..." part. 88 on the forum had a journey where taught him navigation by "Seeing... without seeing"

I'll have to read it all again. Thank you for sharing this with us.
 
Amazing report, shoe, what a profound experience. I think I know what you mean about the healing - I have found myself in other consciousnesses, and felt that I was somehow required to be there so that healing could take place. I didn't know what to do, but thought maybe the spice/plant was using me as a conduit or vehicle to get to the one that needed healing. As my brother ghostman was saying, I had a real sense of being taught how to navigate and perceive within the sacred space, and recent journeys have been all about this - moving by changing the point of awareness - very heartening to read a fellow traveller finding something similar.

much love
 
shoe said:
SWIM doesn't know whether this was real or not real or imagined or spice-visioned or what, so please dont' be like "AHHh you can't heal people ..." I am counting on the love and the respect of the nexus members for this one. :)

It was as if swim was a magician and had just appeared in a completely different land in a puff of smoke. SWIM thinks probably the vomiting was a neciessity in the crossover between the two worlds (if such a thing exists.) as if the slime somehow connected reality and unreality, or if it was all a part of the same thing anyway.

Shortly afterward, SWIM spent the day making a wand from a short length of wood embued it with the druidic alphabet and tipped with a big amythest.

There is no telling how much energy can come from the other worlds, there is no knowing the infinite.

Much love and mad respect shoe, I certainly consider SWIY a magician after THIS; yet another astounding report, cheers. The way you write and the content of it reminds me a lot of some of Nick Sand's writing on the subject - he's the alchemist who was responsible for Orange Sunshine, and first got the idea to try to vaporize DMT, everyone before him who worked with pure n,n had injected it. He mentions something about toilets and vomit and messages and glyphs, I bet you're gonna dig these articles.

Moving into the Sacred World of DMT
Just a Wee Bit More About DMT

"From the first time I made it and took it, I knew I had discovered something so
deep, so magnificent, so profound, that it blew away everything I had ever
experienced before. Period."

Shoe, I've got to interface with you. Our views and experiences possess striking parallels. Have a good one.
 
wow DeeEmmTea that was a really unexpected and pretty little comment!
88: Thats so great that you can comment on that kind of thing too. It was an amazing feeling, knowing everything to be sold and happening, and then just woosh, you'd swing your perspective around and everything would be different in the visions.

the sheer undeniable parallels, co-occuring experiences of word-for-word exact likeness reported between experiences of DMT travellers boggles the mind.

If you consider everything to be one entity, then sure, its obvious that we're all experiencing some part of... something... and of course, everyone says "its all connected" - but you see what I'm getting at: how is that even possible? yet obviously, it is!

Lysergify: Thankyou LOADs for those articles. Nick sand is a personal hero of mine. :) To obtain some Orange sunshine, has also been a focus of mine for some length of time now.
 
shoe said:
Lysergify: Thankyou LOADs for those articles. Nick sand is a personal hero of mine. :) To obtain some Orange sunshine, has also been a focus of mine for some length of time now.

Certainly, your writing recalled those articles, you (and myself) have come to a lot of the same conclusions as he did, a real and untold pioneer there. It's amazing how it's fully known (and proven in court) that he produced millions of doses of top-quality LSD - he's no shady black market type like the Kansas dudes - and spent a mere 6 years in prison for it all, partially due to bureaucratic blunders in his extradition from Canada. Sometimes I feel there's a force for good in the universe that protects such people. He's no longer producing so you won't find real Orange Sunshine, I think that was one specific batch actually. He seems to have been a "family" chemist - whatever you take that to mean, but there are people who feel that providing entheogens to those who are ready is their sacred call, whatever the cost - and my gut instinct is that the flow didn't end with his retirement.
 
Lysergify: I just wanted to thank you for the articles you posted by nick sand, I read them at the time and thought they were wonderful. It's now September and I am returning once more to re-read them :) So, Thankyou.
 
shoe.... Thank you for sharing. I miss having you around, seems I havent read allot from you in the past few months. Thats some intense voyaging you have gotten back into. It feels nice doesnt it?

Once again, thank you for sharing.

IH
 
Yea... I just worked out that Im having, on average, 7 *big* DMT experiences (that I write about) per year, for 2008, 2009 and 2010. Im sure there were also a few other experiences that I didn't log for whatever reason. I went through a period of doing that.

But It's still not down to as few as Terrence Mckenna reccomends, and I myself have reccomended, 2 - 3 per year.

The incredible thing about this particular experience was the spinning quality of it. As SWIM smoked the focus was on his third eye and his eyes went all fucked and shponglesque.. he felt his head melting. The garden was inside the room, or shamanically I had voyaged into some other worldly jungle. Tiny particles were flying with every step. Every step was triangular, everything was triangular. Everything was plant-like and triangular. Everything was spinning. Everything I did had some crazy consequence. Every step.
 
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