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My upcoming first time

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Well my first DMT experience is to be this weekend as I have finally managed to come up with the courage to face the trip and have, to my approval, done enough research on the sacrament as I can without actually experiencing it.

What i wanted to know though was, is smoking crystalline DMT the only way to take it. If not, what other ways are there and are they reccomendable.

what can i expect from a first trip?
are there any possible hazards for my psychological health?

I will post my experience once it occurs.

PEACE
 
Hi there

You could take the DMT with a MAOI(pharma) or you could make changa.

What to expect? Expect the unexpected and be prepared for many questions you are going to want answered, like, what the hell just happened?

Any hazards, well if you dont have any mental problems and your mind is clear of any nonsence, then all is good for blastoff.

Look around the forum, there is alot of knowledge around here.

Welcome.
 
If you asked me that question a few weeks ago id say yes, but my realtionship with cannabis is not the same as it used to be.

But yes that should be fine, Ive made enhanced leaf with cannabis before, and I liked it alot, but a few members have reported that cannabis clouds the experience. Check out the changa thread, alot of usefull info there, and everywhere:)
 
Hi epiphany_awakening,

Welcome to the Nexus!

I don't know about you, but my research is an ongoing project, . . . it never ends. The Nexus is a tremendous resource,not just in terms of posts but also members. Also, the "Search" feature (once activated) is very powerful . . .

Anyway, lots of questions here.

Smoking/vaporizing crystalline DMT is NOT the only way to take it. It is an endogenous neurotransmitter with active transport across the blood-brain barrier. You can:

Smoke
Vaporize
Inject IM (intramuscular)
Inject IV (intravenous)
Anal - I've read about people placing in gel cap and trying for rear entry. Also mixing in enemas.
Snorting - I understand that this would be rough for even the hardest core masochist on the planet. Big burn.

Eating is missing from this list because there is a substance in our guts called Monoamine Oxidase that basically cuts the DMT molecule up as soon as it hits the stomach Therefore the DMT cannot reach the blood-brain barrier. If you consume DMT with an MAOI (Monoamine Oxidase Inhibitor) it will become orally active at generally low doses for most users. These are the various "huascas," with the original having a thousands-year old history in the Amazonian rainforest, being called Ayahuasca and consisting of many plants including Banisteriopsis Caapi and Psychotria Virdis (sp?).

Please take your time in reviewing the links under Preparations and Methods of Administration/Other here at the Nexus: Other - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus

I cannot comment on many of these, but I can say vaporizing is far superior in terms of dealing with the acrid taste and quality of the trip than smoking. I can also say that vaporizing/smoking is super-intense (buildup about 1 min., peak about 4-9 mins, completely basline in 1 hour) and oral is slower (buildup takes so long for me I think it isn't working - like 30-40 mins, comes on more gently yet hits in waves of intensity, lasts 2-4 hours.


What can you expect from a first trip (The DMT Nexus - FAQ )? Hard to say. I strongly believe it is dependent on dose, set, setting, intention and whatever might be cooking sub/unconsciously. At lower doses, distortions, hallucinations and beautiful geometry (both closed and open eyed) frequently manifest for users. At middle to higher doses most users often encounter some sort of "entity." Also, at mid to high doses, many people seem to hear a "carrier wave" hallucination. Sometimes I get this while still hitting on the pipe. It is a high-pitched straight or warbling/sirening tinntinitus tone, but it is higher pitched than any tone in reality. Other than that, it seems difficult to generalize with DMT.

One thing is certain though: If you vaporize/smoke, do it from a seated position and/or with a helper ready to take the hardware from you when your eyes close. If you get a decent hit, you will begin to trip almost immediately. Be ready for this. Try to maintain focus. I, personally, believe it is better to forgo the final hit in order to ensure that everthing is safely put down. This way you can lay back and enjoy yourself without worrying about a fire or nasty burn or broken glass . . .

Dr. Strassman noted, and others here (myself inclusive) have noticed that the first minute of a DMT journey can be very psychologically intense - be ready for unresolved material to raise its head. There is a feeling of being laid bare, stripped, wide open within this minute. Nothing is secret, especially from yourself. This can be incredibly therapeutic - I have gotten a lot of work done here. It can also be disturbing and intense.

Are you literally ready for anything? Higher doses can lead to profound experiences. Sometimes super intense feelings/emotions. Sometimes radically beautiful visions. Sometimes a certainty of dying or being dead. Sometimes a profoud, All-One, mystical feelings (even for a hard-core atheist).

DMT is super strong medicine. Potential hazards for psychological health depend on you. It's just my middle-aged prejudice, but I believe that 25-year old (and older) brains are appropriate starting points for self-experimentation.

If you have psychological issues, DMT can definately bring them to the fore. I have psychological issues and DMT has brought them to the fore - in particular my issues surrounding death and the reality of the death of most of my loved ones. I used to take antidepressants and other big pharma drugs, but I no longer feel the need. Even though some DMT experiences have given me some anxieties and intense dreams, I feel it has helped with my long standing issues of sadness stemming from death and my (prior to my first mystical experience on DMT) atheism. But, I honestly believe, as with other psychedelics, it cannot induce long term psychological ill health in anyone who isn't already living in that space anyway. Believe me, I have been putting this to the test lately. Pushing REALLY hard and though I have had a tough week, everything has settled back down into normality again, as it always tends to do for those who are generally long-term stable . . .

Hope this rambing mess helps somewhat. Really looking forward to reading about your journey(s).

Peace & Love,
Pandora
 
thanks man,

that was good and definetly something I can learn from. Anal insertation of DMT sounds much more like a joke than anything else as does most anal drugs (snicker snicker)

Also, I am a regular user of cannabis and I have smoked myself silly on other trips with other hallucinogens and it didn't seem to matter. Is this the case with D?

The impression I get is that D is a very inexplicable drug and that it produces effects that are very hard to then write down. Is the trip something that you will remember vividly (I do anyway) as LSD and shrooms or can you forget it because of its short duration?

so many questions...
 
Not sure why its so hard to grasp and remember the journey, maybe cos its so unbelievable, a few members can recolect quite well.

I too have smoked myself silly with cannabis, so I never really had that foggy feeling when smoking Spice.

But, if you are going to make enhanced leaf, try and get some passionflower, it has MAOI, so the journey will be extended a bit.
 
epiphany_awakening,

I've never done it anally, but have read enough to understand that it is quite serious. Also, once you taste vaporized/burning spice you might gain a little more sympathy for this idea LOL. . .

I am a hardcore cannabis user. It does not matter how much cannabis I have consumed (or not) before taking the spice. But, a lot of people say that it does, they say it makes it fuzzy and hard to remember and other things. I believe it depends on your relationship with the herb. The herb has become my arthritis medicine more than a way to get "high" in my middle age. Thus, it doesn't drag my DMT trips down like it might if I were 22 years old and getting devastatingly stoned before taking DMT hits. . .

Memory and DMT. Wow. I think a book could be written on this topic. Some people get tremendous amnesia. Others can bring back tremendous amounts of detailed descriptions from their journeys. I believe it it very individual. Regardless of things that happen within the trip itself, I have found that if I really want to remember it I have to take some time while coming down to actively try to consolidate the memories. This means I miss out on a few minutes of pleasant, psychedelic, tranced-out drifting. Another thing I have had limited success with is was speaking into a small voice recorder as soon as I could move (the trance broke).

But, let's be honest: You will not achieve the crystal clarity of memory that LSD offers. It is much closer to the trance effect (for me) of eating approximately six to seven grams of P. Cubenis 'shrooms. Yet, for me it is definately clearer, more frenetic and more intense, even at low doses, than high-dose 'shroom trips.

Though there are some that would tell you not to question while in hyperspace, I do believe that questions and hunger for education/knowledge are good/healthy things here in consensual reality. Keep 'em coming!

Peace & Love,
Pandora
 
mmmmm

me being relatively new to the world of DMT, I would implode if I couldn't ask questions to mature travellers who have done it bfore countless times and know the way of the drug.

Although i do consider myself to be a LSD 'guru' I have had relatively few experiences with entheogens apart from mushies and baby woodrose.

I will post up to let you guys know when my first experience is complete (soon, this weekend) although I am going to be extracting with a close friend, I wished to know which tek is the simplest or merely the easiest to follow for someone who failed high school chemistry?
 
epiphany_awakening,

Hopefully others will comment as I am not a mature traveler. But, I sure do feel the same way you do about questions . . .

Failed high school chemisty?:( Please, regardless of what you decide, be very, very, very careful. Take your time. Read things over thrice. Look up and thoroughly research things you do not understand. Ask questions at the Nexus. Turn off all pilot lights. Keep neutralizing agents (e.g. vinegar handy when working with sodium hydroxide) handy whether called for in the tek or not. Wear full protective gear - long sleeves, pants, socks, shoes, heavy duty chemical gloves, a good respirator (NOT a painter's or surgeon's mask), serious eye protection. Ensure you have a good, proven way to separate layers before you begin - do not assume a "turkey baster" will do the job.

I use Noman's STB (straight to base) tek: Noman's tek - DMT-Nexus Wiki. There's also a nice extraction overview section: DMT Extraction Overview - DMT-Nexus Wiki.

This tek works for me because it is simple, requires no cooking/heating for the actual extraction portion, uses easily procurable materials and consistently yields beautiful results.

Peace & Love,
Pandora
 

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Hey! A fellow Scot new to this fascinating substance!

I've never done it yet myself but I wish you the very best of luck with your journey and look forward to hearing your reports when you come back!

Big love to you all!
 
Failed high school chemisty?:(

yeah i know man but i mean dont get me wrong, i always did try but sciences aren't really my thing. I've always been more into social studies, art-drama-music and languages lol

I will do. I mean, before me extracting anything myself I have to try it first.
 
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