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NB-DMT: What am I doing wrong?

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HamsterSubmarine

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Hi Community,

I'm in my thirties, have past positive experience with LSD.

I tried to use DMT for the first time ever today. I have NB-DMT at 99% purity.

I did some research before, and intended to consume it in my vaporizer- a "Fenix Pro".

As there is no liquid pad in my vaporizer, I made a little base of Oregano (so the DMT once it liquifies does not just just run through the openings in the Vaporizer and out the bottom, I had read this online as a tip) and put 15mg on top. I set the Vaporizer to 190 C° , made sure set and setting were right and turned it on.

Then I waited some time for the heat to spread and took deep inhales, held it down for 30s as I had read.

To no effect.

After two minutes I opened the vaporizer to find that the DMT had "gone" - there was no powder left in there, and no liquid had run out the bottom, so it must have either vaporized or liquified and gotten into the Oregano and stayed there. I did NOT have a sensation of smoking something VERY harsh as described in some guides.

So I assumed that the dose was too low and repeated the process within 2 minutes - to still no effect (30mg total by now.) As that definitely should have had an effect, I assumed that something is wrong with my approach.

I had read that you can also snort it, so I changed plans and snorted - first 15mg, with no effect. then another 15mg, still no effect.

So here I sit, feeling like an absolute fool, 60mg of DMT ingested through various orifices, no effect but a nose that hurts from the snorting. Further online research seems to show that because of the NB-configuration snorting is impossible, as part of the molecule first needs to fall away during heating.

May I please have some advice on what the issue is? Could it be that the vaporizer does not heat the drug enough?

Further information: I do not have a glass pipe. I would like to try it today, as the setting is great. But I do not want to do something unsafe, so if there is no option to do it today I am ok with procuring new "tools" and trying again at a later stage.

Thank you.
 
Yes I'm aware it's a "research chemical" - but apparently it has a quite simmilar effect as the "real" DMT, at least according to numerous trip reports I have read from experienced people. It's great that there is a subforum for it, but I don't see the logic of not being able to access it. If harm reduction is one of the major goals, then why bar the people that would most benefit from educating themselves in the subforum?
Also, sorry for posting the link in reply to "What is NB?", lesson learned.
 
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We have recently updated the forum, you have access to this place.

On how to proceed
[NEW SUBFORA] 'Nootropics' and 'Novel Psychoactive Substances (RC)' - Announcements and Suggestions - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus


And read this thread especially the last reply.

NB DMT (oxalat)

Hi, I bought some legal NB DMT.. Can 8 smoke it in an. Electronic cigarette? How much milligram on how much milliliters of e cig base? Greetzle
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Nope, I do not have access. I already tried yesterday when you first posted the link - still does not work for me.
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I also read the last reply of the thread you are linking to - you've linked this twice now :) - but there are posts about this (toxic breakdown product) on reddit that seem to debunk / counter that topic.
 
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You could try boiling it in HCl for a while and then extracting the DMT back out, but if you haven't worked that out I'm not really sure you should be boiling anything in HCl either.

HamsterSubmarine said:
there are posts about this (toxic breakdown product) on reddit that seem to debunk / counter that topic.
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Quotes from and links to the Reddit debunk would be very welcome.
HamsterSubmarine said:
So here I sit, feeling like an absolute fool, 60mg of DMT ingested through various orifices, no effect but a nose that hurts from the snorting. Further online research seems to show that because of the NB-configuration snorting is impossible, as part of the molecule first needs to fall away during heating.
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Have you ascertained the identity of the alleged substance in any way? Deprotecting it and extracting the DMT back out of the mixture might be one step in this process.
 
I've tested NB-DMT quite a lot.
In the beginning I've had quite a hard time to get it active and I've wasted around 1g to get a solution with results.
I had some results with a glass pipe, but it was quite hard. I had to make several attempts to get all the smoke inside and it's quite a challenge to get the perfect temperature, else it's just not working at all.
Nevertheless I've tried different methods and even mixed it with different dosages of natron, but beside the smell which is even worse, no better results. Don't do it with natron, it's even more waste.

Anyway, I've bought myself a Yocan Orbit and you should do it too if you're experimenting with NB-DMT. But it's VERY important to pre-heat the substance once and after that you have to vaporize it with the MEDIUM heat level (NOT the lowest, it's not working at all). It MUST BE the second of the three different temperature levels!!

In this case you can even have a breakthrough with a single hit. But be aware: DMT is kicking in very hard. Better have a tripsitter on your side, I can't clarify this enough. The total loss of self-control can be not manageable, better have someone there to help you if anything happens.

Stay safe.
 
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