Would love some advice from this community. I extracted a gram or so from MRHB, seemed to work perfectly. To start slow I snorted a couple bumps a couple times. Burned terribly, got some mild visual effects. But the following few days I felt pretty terrible both times. Weird mental fog, low energy, sensitivity to sounds. I now have made a 1:4 solution in 50%PG / 50%VG and am going to try vaping. But now I am worried about putting myself into an even worse mental state with the higher dose from vaping. Anyone have a similar experience with insufflation? Did other routes of administration have the intended effects with fewer side effects?
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Hi there and welcome,
My question to you would be, why the hurry? If your mental state is not good wait until you feel better and then decide to take the plunge, there is no point in rushing especially when you’re already unwell.
DMT is really interesting but also really intense, feeling good and relaxed, especially when you’re very inexperienced is important.
So my advice is, wait and in the meantime read up on mental preparation.
To answer your question, no, you should not have any side effects apart from the painful nose.
My question to you would be, why the hurry? If your mental state is not good wait until you feel better and then decide to take the plunge, there is no point in rushing especially when you’re already unwell.
DMT is really interesting but also really intense, feeling good and relaxed, especially when you’re very inexperienced is important.
So my advice is, wait and in the meantime read up on mental preparation.
To answer your question, no, you should not have any side effects apart from the painful nose.
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Assuming you don't have some kind of contamination in your DMT that's causing side effects, you'll probably have a much more carefree experience with vaping. Extreme pain from DMT insufflation is common.
You could also look into using it orally with harmalas. That's a favorite for many people.
You could also look into using it orally with harmalas. That's a favorite for many people.
Dissolving the inside of one's nostrils with a caustic amine could, quite conceivably, increase the likelihood of some kind of infection being able to take hold.
Get yourself healthy before trying again, just like @Varallo says. Most ROAs are better than snorting freebase, although snorting fumarate barely works at all - shame, since it's less painful.
Take care and welcome to the Nexus!
Get yourself healthy before trying again, just like @Varallo says. Most ROAs are better than snorting freebase, although snorting fumarate barely works at all - shame, since it's less painful.
Take care and welcome to the Nexus!
1Starway7
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in my opinion ......seriously !. vapeing is always safer than snorting! .... if made by a kitchen chemist ... ..i would worry about the purity of the drug ..i certanly would not put it in my nose...
Because i need my nose!... and my nose needs me...
...... I wouldent want it to fall off in my lap...
Honestly......just take a break....you will heal up... you will be ok!
I would try flushing out the nose to keep it clean ... then use a q tip with aloe vera gell ..apply the aloe vera with q tip inside nose as often as needed ... ..the aloe should reduce the pain and acelerate healing....
Because i need my nose!... and my nose needs me...
...... I wouldent want it to fall off in my lap...Honestly......just take a break....you will heal up... you will be ok!
I would try flushing out the nose to keep it clean ... then use a q tip with aloe vera gell ..apply the aloe vera with q tip inside nose as often as needed ... ..the aloe should reduce the pain and acelerate healing....
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I beg to differ, lungs are very sensitive and essential to the body, your nose is very much optionalin my opinion ......seriously !. vapeing is always safer than snorting! .... if made by a kitchen chemist ... ..i would worry about the purity of the drug ..i certanly would not put it in my nose...
Because i need my nose!... and my nose needs me...
Honestly......just take a break....you will heal up... you will be ok!
I would try flushing out the nose to keep it clean ... then use a q tip with aloe vera gell ..apply the aloe vera with q tip inside nose as often as needed ... ..the aloe should reduce the pain and acelerate healing....
A recent article on the subject of nasal spray bases on the fumarate salt.
Frontiers | Overcoming the clinical challenges of traditional ayahuasca: a first-in-human trial exploring novel routes of administration of N,N-Dimethyltryptamine and harmine
Recently, the Amazonian plant medicine “ayahuasca” – containing the psychedelic compound N,N-dimethyltryptamine (DMT) and numerous β-carboline alkaloids, suc...
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Optimally, having both intact nose and lungs before and after experimentation would be the goal. The interior of the nasal cavity contains various features which play important parts in maintaining health - from filtering, to thermal balancing, to humidification, along with the crucial role that the sense of smell plays in cognitive and mental health. So it's obviously best to take care of all the parts of one's body, even if one organ maybe more acutely critical to survival than another.I beg to differ, lungs are very sensitive and essential to the body, your nose is very much optional
A recent article on the subject of nasal spray bases on the fumarate salt.
Frontiers | Overcoming the clinical challenges of traditional ayahuasca: a first-in-human trial exploring novel routes of administration of N,N-Dimethyltryptamine and harmine
Recently, the Amazonian plant medicine “ayahuasca” – containing the psychedelic compound N,N-dimethyltryptamine (DMT) and numerous β-carboline alkaloids, suc...
My own, brief series of intranasal freebase DMT experiments came to a close nearly two decades ago, when a small fleshy blob dropped out of one of my nostrils. A best case scenario would be spontaneous self-excision of a nasal polyp, but I'm not so sure. Discussing this kind of thing with a physician requires finding a suitably open-minded one in the first place.
Oef now I’m suddenly reevaluating my ketamine use
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There are risks, but IM/SC is definitely the best ROA for ketamine IME. And it's so efficient in terms of needing less. About half the ketamine for the same effect.Oef now I’m suddenly reevaluating my ketamine use
I know but I don’t think I have the quality of ketamine that is needed for this, also I like the ease of just snorkeling it. But yes I agree that the needle is an excellent option.
1Starway7
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Your very welcome to your opinion...the nose is part of the respratory system...the nose and lungs are important and a person should be cautious what is alowed into it..I beg to differ, lungs are very sensitive and essential to the body, your nose is very much optional
A recent article on the subject of nasal spray bases on the fumarate salt.
Frontiers | Overcoming the clinical challenges of traditional ayahuasca: a first-in-human trial exploring novel routes of administration of N,N-Dimethyltryptamine and harmine
Recently, the Amazonian plant medicine “ayahuasca” – containing the psychedelic compound N,N-dimethyltryptamine (DMT) and numerous β-carboline alkaloids, suc...
what i was trying to do a while back was to find a way to make dmt and other vapors less harmfull to people by using.... [ vaping with a cigarette filter... posts]
I havent taken this idea no where near far enough yet...it needs to be tested further...as i have read many posts on smoking pot through these filters and many posts claimed they got ...[[just as high]]... smoking pot through a ...[tar guard filter]....as without one .....[and kept extra crap out of their lungs].... and ive personally seen a fair amount of tar and impuritys the one time i tested my idea inside my tar guard filter,..
CLEANER VAPING and SMOKING! ... could extend your good health!
IF.... one could get just as high vaping DMT....through a special filter...and see evedence of the trapped tars and impuritys they kept from entering their lungs...why wouldent this be a good idea to make vaping ....[a little bit safer!].... for everyone?
Some types may try to make fun of a good idea like using these filters...and others may see it as a sensible way to reduce putting unnessasery impuritys into their lungs and throat...
The idea isnt worth much unless it tested ... i only stopped a while ...because i had a bronkitis cough and had to wait till i felt better....
im surprised no one hasent tryed the filter idea yet?
below are photos showing proof that freebase dmt vapor can be filtered ...the question is...how much of the ...desired molecule.... is being trapped and wasted in the tar?
or is most of the .....lighter airborn DMT molecule.... getting through? should be able to answer these questions by vaping a larger amount...and noticing the effect...
Does A Cigarette Filter Stop You Getting High?
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Apr 11, 2025 — A study from 2001 on harm reduction and cannabis inhalation found that using a cigarette filter weed setup could trap up to 30% of THC, ...
I know of atleast 5 different cigarette filters that could be used in the tests...
also!.. vaporized DMt is in ...gas vapor form... and may react a different way passing through a filter!
smoked material is combusted with probibly a much higher amount of impuritys compaired to vapor....
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1Starway7
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DMT freebase journey... through a cigarette filter ,....
Just what i thought!...the lighter molecules in plant based dmt ... SHOULD... stay airborn a little longer.... than the heavyer plant oils .... meaning the heavier impuritys should get trapped in the cigarett filter first...... alowing most of the lighter molecules through the filter to get inhaled..
in this way ... one should experiance a cleaner vaping experiance!!!
.[in this way ..the filter may be..... SOMEWHAT SELECTIVE]........
read below.......
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AI OverviewIn terms of how long they stay airborne, DMT molecules and plant oils behave differently due to their size and other properties:
- DMT's Molecular Weight: DMT has a molecular weight of 188.27 g/mol.
- Plant Oils' Molecular Weight: Vegetable oils are composed of triglycerides, which are much larger molecules than DMT. Their average molecular weight is considerably higher, typically ranging between 800 and 900 g/mol, according to Brainly. For example, the average molecular weight of olive oil is about 884 kg/kmol.
- Effect of Molecular Weight on Airborne Time: Lighter molecules, like DMT, tend to diffuse faster and remain suspended in the air for longer periods compared to heavier molecules like plant oil triglycerides. Heavier molecules possess greater inertia, which makes them less susceptible to random collisions with air molecules that keep smaller particles aloft.
- Aerosols vs. Vapors/Gases: It's important to distinguish between aerosols and vapors/gases. Vapors and gases consist of individual molecules, while aerosols are suspensions of particles or droplets in the air. While DMT can be vaporized and inhaled as a gas, plant oils typically form aerosols when heated or atomized, meaning they are suspended as droplets. Aerosol particles, especially larger ones, tend to settle out of the air due to gravity, a process known as sedimentation.
This info above is what i thought might happen!!...the heavier impuritys .should get trapped in the filter...[maybe a small amount of the dmt molecules]... might get trapped with the inpuritys?].... ... still... alowing a much more pure dmt mass of molecules through to be inhaled!! and giving a more positive experiance...
this idea [is promising]...but.. has yet to be tested.....
IF..... this idea works it means ...... [ more healthy vaping!........plus cleaner more positive dmt experiance... vaping in the future.... to come..... will be made much safer for people..
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