Need Help breaking through

[fredw424]

Hello fellow traverlers,

Glad to join your forums. My friend recently acquired some NN-DMT in the freebase powder form. I watched several youtube videos and was intrigued enough to try 60 MG. I used the 2L Soda bong as used in this video.

It's a bit in but you'll see it for sure. I tried taking all at once but it proved too much for me. I saw the patterns everyone talks about and walls were about to come down but I pulled back into reality. My computer desk and everything was morphing kind of, but it all came back down. My friend went out and purchased a classic wooden VAPOR GENIE for about 40 bucks from a local head shop. They tried smoking it using the "DMT SANDWICH method" with some hash but they didn't even see the patterns that I saw.

How would you guys recommend on using the classic vapor genie or should I simply go back to the 2l soda bong. Thanks for your help fellas.

 

[Metanoia]

I have no experience with vapor genie's, so no help there.

My suggestion is a bong. The sandwich method in a bong is the best method I've used.

The 2L bong you're describing is like a gravity bong, I believe.

There's no reason that wouldn't work, but a water bong is much easier on the lungs, which will make it easier to take it all in one toke.

It shouldn't be too harsh either, unless you're sandwiching it with harsh herbs. Harshness may mean that you're burning the DMT. You need to vaporize, so the flame can never come into contact with the DMT itself.

 

[fredw424]

Do you have an actual photo of that set up? Where do you put the chewing gum? thanks for answering so quickly

 

[shanedudddy2]

I`ll drawn diagram of my setup shortly, it's quite ghetto, but highly effective
and allows as much as you really want to be loaded in, and simply remain there until another time.
Definitely wouldn't go with a gravity bong imo, after many time coughing my self to near death in the past sinking them in the past.
I use a cone piece, and steel wool stuffed into the cone piece.
Sprinkle the DMT ontop of the steel wool, and then careful control of the lighter to melt and then heat the wool from the top.
You aren't putting the flame near the DMT, but instead heating it by conduction of the steel wool.
Doing it with control leads to vaporisation instead of burning it, which is easy to do using the typical sandwich method employed with herbs, and the herbs catch alight, making it difficult to control the temp.
Just my 5c.

 

[fredw424]

I`ll drawn diagram of my setup shortly, it's quite ghetto, but highly effective
and allows as much as you really want to be loaded in, and simply remain there until another time.
Definitely wouldn't go with a gravity bong imo, after many time coughing my self to near death in the past sinking them in the past.
I use a cone piece, and steel wool stuffed into the cone piece.
Sprinkle the DMT ontop of the steel wool, and then careful control of the lighter to melt and then heat the wool from the top.
You aren't putting the flame near the DMT, but instead heating it by conduction of the steel wool.
Doing it with control leads to vaporisation instead of burning it, which is easy to do using the typical sandwich method employed with herbs, and the herbs catch alight, making it difficult to control the temp.
Just my 5c.

Please post that set up! Easy and and ghetto sounds great to me :thumb_up:

 

[shanedudddy2]

Excuse my TERRIBLE ms paint sketch haha.

Step 1:
Put steel wool into cone piece.
The cone piece is in a pipe in my implementation, but I see no reason it couldn't be in a bong. Make sure the wool fits tightly, but still allows airflow. After this is complete, sprinkle DMT on top.

Step 2:
Flame a bit above, not on the DMT, you can visually see the DMT melt down, some will vape at this step, breathe in as you flame above. At the bottom it will be unable to drip through due the wire mesh we have created in the earlier step.

Step 3:
Now that DMT has moved to the bottom of the cone piece, heat up carefully the top of the steel wool, whilst still breathing in. This will vape the DMT if done correctly and with care. This step can be done in parts, take a lungfull, then reflame etc. That's usually what I do.

give it a crack
I also am a huge fan of vapourhausca, which is MAOI and vaped DMT allows for a bit more freedom with dosages.

 

[fredw424]

Update: This is my poor attempt on building the machine. I definitely need some constructive criticism. Thanks a lot guys!

http://i48.tinypic.com/e00eb7.jpg

http://i45.tinypic.com/2u7mx52.jpg

 

[3rdI]

hello fredw424,

i cant really comment on your machine as i have never made/used one, but have you tried infusing your DMT into a herb and just sticking it in a bong?

this has got to be the most fool proof way of using DMT that i know of, load it, spark it, hold it in and then BOOOOOM, jobs a goodun.

im not sure if you have read it but this thread might be of use to you