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NeitherHere

Lucid dreamer, clusterhead, and librarian
Tonight I took 2.5g of reduced cubensis tea mixed in black tea with my partner and took a large unweighed dose of acrb DMT at apx the 3 hour mark alone.

Let it be known that I do not condone the inexperienced taking high or unknown dosages, especially alone. I have extensive solo trip experience and am more than comfortable in doing this. Please be responsible. Now onto the report

We ate chicken nachos and put on "Cop Out" while we waited for the mushrooms to kick in. With all the stress lately we've become a bit distant trying to get things back in order. Tonight presented itself as the opportune time to reground and reconnect.

At the t:1:30 mark we jumped in the shower and got ourselves clean while appreciating each other intimately. Eventually the hot water ran dry so we evacuated to the living room to proceed. 2.5g was barely perceptible visually but we could both tell the medicine was working. Helping us recenter with each other and refind the fire we once had.

We finished the movie and I decided it was about time I go outside to address some issues within the ether. My machine was loaded with an unknown amount of DMT. Preloaded with the hardened red oil of a previous extraction which has proven highly effective and recently soaked in fresh crystal clear oil from a fresh extraction. There was a lot in there.

I proceeded to take a few deep breaths. Prayed to the spice to help me find answers to questions I couldn't quite formulate, protect me in the beyond, and help me find peace in the chaos all around.

I took a small hit as usual to test the waters. Nothing

I took another larger hit and held it. Nothing

I took another even larger hit and held it longer. Nothing.

But I felt compelled to persist. The cubensis onboard is holding the reigns and it must be as disoriented as me to get lift off I told myself.

My fourth hit I pulled and pulled until I sincerely became concerned about the absolute lack of activity. I was seemingly locked out. Rapping my knuckles on the door of hyperspace I was essentially being ignored.

I had ran the piece almost dry and nothing noticable. While disappointed I told myself that I was attempting to reactivate and already activated segment of my brain. "You can't turn a light on any more than it already is friend".

So I resigned to going back inside and laying down. I put the machine away, crawled into the fuzzy blankets, and closed my eyes.

This is when I noticed a white crocodile swimming peacefully and rhythmically in grey tone river from above as if I was a bird. This crocodile mutated into a large grey anaconda in the same jungle river.

While interesting it seemed mildly underwhelming so I proceeded to look around. This is when I realized I was at ground level among the animals and foliage.

This sense of being watched washed over me and I noticed a black Jaguar / big cat watching me from the foliage. It started as a black jaguar and began shaoeshifting into various things increasingly unnerving. A sense of disdain washed over me. This internal dialogue came over me "i will not be hunted, I will NOT be intimidated"

I imagined emitting a bright overwhelming light of passive tolerance and acceptance. You will not intimidate me. But I understand that this is not personal. Jaguar does what it is meant to do.

Almost immediately as I began to emit light I was seemingly teleported beneath and within a fractal pyramid with a beacon of light shooting from its point. I watched in awe studying it from within watching it's parts move in an almost rhythmic and intentionally clocked way. It was all in harmony. Cogs to a machine.

The trip was short lived and resource expensive but I feel like I've gained understanding with this entity that I feel has been following me in my day to day life this year.

In coming down and talking about it in chat I realized that I wasn't so much teleported as much as I had become said pyramid. We were one in the same. The saying your body is a castle comes to mind. When I said "I will not be intimidated, have LIGHT!" I myself had become this greyscale pyramid shooting an incomprehensibly blinding bright light from the top. While inside of this pyramid form I realized that there was nothing. Nothing but me and this beacon. The predator lurking in the back attempting to stalk me was no more. It realized that I was not prey but equal if not more powerful. It vanished immediately as if by command. A big big house cat just trying to eat. But I am not to be eaten.

When I came back down to the emerging peak of my cubensis trip I realized that I felt "normal". Still tripping but back to baseline.


I probably will not do this experience again. When I say I consumed more DMT than all of my previous trips combined I mean it. It was excessive. BUT the spice heard me. It was patient and tolerant of my tenacity. While not producing vibrant colors I think the muted undertones were intentional. So as to not distract me from the monster in the brush.

The white crocodile
The grey anaconda
The black Jaguar

They all have their meaning. I have yet to figure it out in its entirety. But I'm eternally grateful for the experiences the spice willfully affords me in this fleeting life. An incredibly rare experience few get to receive and even fewer seem readily willing to digest beyond the recreation. The spice is not a toy. It is not a substance to be partied about it is ancient technology with great power capable of true shamanistic visions.

I will be proceeding with changa/aya work as soon as possible. There is much to learn. But I will wait patiently for the time that it comes to fruition.

This report written at "peak" of cubensis post blast. Please bare in mind typos and misuse of words is bound to happen with me. I will revise and edit at a later date while not under the medicines influence.

Thank you for your time 🙏
 
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Wonderful way to approach the situation that many people can not do. Difficult psychedelic experiences show who you really are, just like emergency situations in life. I can't say why your DMT didn't seem to work, but this has happened to me as well. I have found that it is important to smoke the spice gently. Its not smoked like tobacco or weed. It is almost sipped on. It is a very gentle experience, you should not even feel the vapor. If you feel it, you are burning it, and that means it is not working effectively.

Much love. Very happy to hear your report. Enjoy the rest of the experience on the downward slope.
 
Ive been using spice through out the week for cluster headache remediation. I think this has left me "dull" when psilocybin was also apart of my week. I'm not surprised at all that I struggled to launch. But I might reapproach this again under more optimum circumstances :)
 
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I decided that I would add my experiences onto this post rather than make a new thread each time I have a memorable trip. In this way I get to document my experiences and share then with kthers without overloading the subforum. I think its important for myself to document and share so i can review these trips going forward.
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I had an interesting trip last night with the same spice as last time but this time I didn't take any psilo.

I took a small rip and held it for a few seconds. This few seconds was awkward just like last time. For a moment it felt like nothing was happening. Until I exhaled and noticed that my vision was subtly waving.

I went inside,put everything away, and laid down. When I closed my eyes i noticed a a colorful dancing geometric pattern. A bunch of interlocked triangles spinning rather quickly. The speed they rotated made me dizzy. These triangles became long slender leaves 🌿 again, like my last trip I found myself searching a jungle. Things weren't so clear this time but i could hear birds and monkeys singing in the distance. I kept travelling through the dense brush. But it was thick like a corn field, until it wasn't anymore. I out of the thick brush came this expansive clearing. The land appeared salted, not even grass grew here. In the middle of this clearing stood a stone pyramid that reached toward the sky at impressive height.

For me this was when it began to feel odd. A true pyramid in the middle of a dense jungle with no explanation. Yet somehow I felt this sense of relief wash over me.almost like a generational relief of worry. Like i had found a long lost ancient home. I could still hear the wildlife in the distance but I was more focused on this clearing in the land. It had significance but i couldn't place why it felt so significant. It was important in a way I couldn't explain but i had a sensory connection to it.

This was when I heard nails clicking on the tile nearby, a pet had gotten restless and started to roam around the home. The echoing click broke my focus and the trip dissipated as soon as I opened my eyes. All cev vanished.

From what i've read, culturally speaking. Each plant has its own spirit. Each extraction itself has its own spirit about itself. Considering this totally translucent oil came from the same acrb as the last few yet has provided consistently different experiences to the last few oils/ crystals i've produced I feel inclined to believe the cultural knowledge. Clearly there's a difference in experiences here but i'm still not sure why I keep seeing pyramids?
 
Good read. Thank you.
Not so much about the content of your experiences but I've got something about combining P. cubensis and DMT. Earlier this year I took a big dose of dried cubensis. It was some years old (around 2 I believe, but stored away from air, heat and light). Because of the age I took 6 g as a tea. Had a quite strong trip but almost no visuals at all (these days it seems like I have to have cannabis to get visuals, but I did not wanted to take that this time). I had a lot of emotions and in a way that I've only read about before. That is that strong emotions comes and leaves really fast. Like a minute of crying, then happy, then sad . and so on.
Anyway. About 5h in and almost aout ot it and quite tiered but still curious I decided to have a bit of DMT. I loaded around .025 and I thing I got it all in. ... And nothing. What happened was that I totally sobered up. Got totally clearheaded. Strange and not what I had expected. But also a clear sign so I went straight to bet and slept good :)
 
Good read. Thank you.
Not so much about the content of your experiences but I've got something about combining P. cubensis and DMT. Earlier this year I took a big dose of dried cubensis. It was some years old (around 2 I believe, but stored away from air, heat and light). Because of the age I took 6 g as a tea. Had a quite strong trip but almost no visuals at all (these days it seems like I have to have cannabis to get visuals, but I did not wanted to take that this time). I had a lot of emotions and in a way that I've only read about before. That is that strong emotions comes and leaves really fast. Like a minute of crying, then happy, then sad . and so on.
Anyway. About 5h in and almost aout ot it and quite tiered but still curious I decided to have a bit of DMT. I loaded around .025 and I thing I got it all in. ... And nothing. What happened was that I totally sobered up. Got totally clearheaded. Strange and not what I had expected. But also a clear sign so I went straight to bet and slept good :)
I recently read an article about using tryptamines to treat headaches, in this article they went over the diminishing returns and cross tolerance of psychedelics. Something that was mentioned is that when we consume psilocybin part of the medicine gets stuck or trapped in the receptors towards the end of the trip and for a few days after essentially "closing the door" to those receptors until the compounds break down enough to get out of the way. It would not surprise me if adding the dmt post peak is closing the remaining receptors almost on contact. Another thing to note is that you need a rush of dmt on the receptors to get the effects as well. A trickle of fuel doesn't get a rocket off the ground, it needs a flood of fuel . So if we have say 30% of receptors closed off and we need at least 70% receptor accessibility then we aren't going to find what we're looking for.

I believe this is why I was practically immune to the spice during my trip. My brain couldn't process enough fast enough even though i essentially waterboarded it with dmt.

If I were to redo this I would aim for something like changa on the front end before the receptors reach inhibition. Fungi is renewable but spice less so.

In hindsight I have never had an issue blasting the day after but again at that point some receptors are opening, you're flooding the brain with dmt, and i usually don't go for break through doses for what most of my spice usage intention is.

Be well, be safe 🙏
 
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I think Psilocybin shouldn't be mixed with other substances in general , except THC that enhance it's potency BUT only if you can handle the heavy ride it triggers !

It always goes well for me with strong introspection ( what I'm always looking for ) but might be hazardous for others , just my 2cents ... ;)

Be well and safe 😙
 
I think Psilocybin shouldn't be mixed with other substances in general , except THC that enhance it's potency BUT only if you can handle the heavy ride it triggers !

It always goes well for me with strong introspection ( what I'm always looking for ) but might be hazardous for others , just my 2cents ... ;)

Be well and safe 😙
Psilocybin and harmalas is also an approved combo of the Nexus steering committee :D

Of course, the caveat of enhanced potency applies here, possibly more, even, than with THC.
 
this is just another random report to add to the journal.

I had a really short remission period from the cluster headaches for about 3 days where they totally vanished and came back worse than ever before.
I made myself some gummies with 7 grams of cubensis. each gummy being ~0.35g and I've taken 2-4 per day for the last several days as a stop gap between myself and the absolutely horribly painful cluster.

late yesterday evening I decided to try out a mixture of the various qualities of ACRB extract I had from clear crystal, yellow goo, and "hard" red goo which I assume was loaded with oxidized DMT. call it a rainbow blend I guess ( the irony of my report in regards to this blend nickname is not beyond me)

I sat here unsure of where it was going to take me as usual and totally accepting of what ever may come. I closed my eyes and was met with a "GREY". an classic "alien".

something interesting I'm noticing in my experiments is that DMT and psilocybin together keep producing "muted" greyscale trips. everything is black and white.

anyways, I saw this alien infront of me staring at me. seemingly emotionless but it had this air of curiosity and borderline hostile body language. I didn't give this much thought, like most of my other recent trips with this combo other entities, in this situation aliens, began to appear. I realized I was immobilized laying down on what on what seemed to be an exam bed. one of the greys standing above me looking down at me waving a hand above my body slowly as if it were studying me telepathically. I remember kind of chuckling, the whole situation felt so... cliche? "I hope they aren't going to try and probe me". this was when another alien appeared infront of me almost pissed off that I even had such a thought. it looked at me with a very clear look of disdain.

it stood there glaring at me rather intensely so I decided to see myself out, I opened my eyes and the trip faded away.


what really stands out to me is that these trips are all "grey" lately since my insectoid encounter. the only thing that has changed in the mix is the low dose psilocybin.
in my last few experiences I've found that it's actually harder to get through with any cubensis on board at all but that it's easier with LESS if I am micro dosing. for example the trip is easier to get into and navigate on a single gram than it is on 2 grams of cubensis.

another thing I found recently is that I have been more accepting of the intensity of LemonTek even though historically I have NEVER liked it. I think this has something to do with my spice usage and my newfound acceptance of hyperspace as a whole. the only thing that I didn't quite like was that it was several hours of that intensity. probably something I need to slowly work up to dosage wise to get comfortable with.

chances are I'll be looking more toward changa and lemon tek going forward for medicinal purposes unless I absolutely need to abort an attack immediately otherwise I'll be reserving the pure spice exclusively for spiritual exploration.
 
this is just another random report to add to the journal.

I had a really short remission period from the cluster headaches for about 3 days where they totally vanished and came back worse than ever before.
I made myself some gummies with 7 grams of cubensis. each gummy being ~0.35g and I've taken 2-4 per day for the last several days as a stop gap between myself and the absolutely horribly painful cluster.

late yesterday evening I decided to try out a mixture of the various qualities of ACRB extract I had from clear crystal, yellow goo, and "hard" red goo which I assume was loaded with oxidized DMT. call it a rainbow blend I guess ( the irony of my report in regards to this blend nickname is not beyond me)

I sat here unsure of where it was going to take me as usual and totally accepting of what ever may come. I closed my eyes and was met with a "GREY". an classic "alien".

something interesting I'm noticing in my experiments is that DMT and psilocybin together keep producing "muted" greyscale trips. everything is black and white.

anyways, I saw this alien infront of me staring at me. seemingly emotionless but it had this air of curiosity and borderline hostile body language. I didn't give this much thought, like most of my other recent trips with this combo other entities, in this situation aliens, began to appear. I realized I was immobilized laying down on what on what seemed to be an exam bed. one of the greys standing above me looking down at me waving a hand above my body slowly as if it were studying me telepathically. I remember kind of chuckling, the whole situation felt so... cliche? "I hope they aren't going to try and probe me". this was when another alien appeared infront of me almost pissed off that I even had such a thought. it looked at me with a very clear look of disdain.

it stood there glaring at me rather intensely so I decided to see myself out, I opened my eyes and the trip faded away.


what really stands out to me is that these trips are all "grey" lately since my insectoid encounter. the only thing that has changed in the mix is the low dose psilocybin.
in my last few experiences I've found that it's actually harder to get through with any cubensis on board at all but that it's easier with LESS if I am micro dosing. for example the trip is easier to get into and navigate on a single gram than it is on 2 grams of cubensis.

another thing I found recently is that I have been more accepting of the intensity of LemonTek even though historically I have NEVER liked it. I think this has something to do with my spice usage and my newfound acceptance of hyperspace as a whole. the only thing that I didn't quite like was that it was several hours of that intensity. probably something I need to slowly work up to dosage wise to get comfortable with.

chances are I'll be looking more toward changa and lemon tek going forward for medicinal purposes unless I absolutely need to abort an attack immediately otherwise I'll be reserving the pure spice exclusively for spiritual exploration.
Lemon tek is awesome. My favorite way to shroom. Did 5 dried grams of golden teachers last Saturday night via Lemon Tek & it was absolutely amazing. Very clean & cosmic feeling. The CEVs were so beautiful & profound. I was considering hitting my DMT vape but I held off to avoid potentially interrupting the trip vibe but now I wish I had hit the DMT pen a fews good times. I’d really like to breakthough & I feel like this will be the way.

I did see a lot of entities of various sorts, but they were all pleasant & some were very loving indeed.
 
Today I woke up at 3am to an intense and debilitating headache that left me pale, pukey, having difficulty seeing etc, by 9 am i went to the ER where they wanted 400 intergalactic units to give me oxygen and a small regiment of pharmaceutical tryptamines like sumatriptan.

I'm broke and we just got hit with identity theft that emptied and sent our bank account almost 1000 credits into oblivion so i opted to go home and take some tampanensis. Knowing ot would make a difference.

6g fresh tampanensis tea blended into concentrated orange juice and a mix of frozen kiwi, mango, and pine apple.

00:00 I ate a few large kolache

00:14 I seriously underestimated how difficult it would be to drink a liter of smoothy mix on a full stomach

00:20 200ml left. No noticable effects yet, the cluster is subtly backing off although some minor pain is still present. Stomach grumbling as it permeates throughout my stomach. Not sure I took enough yo reach visuals like I was hoping for but still to early to up dose

00:30 smoothey finished, mild stomach discomfort. Headache seems to have receded i should known in about an hour if it's going to stay gone or come back. I expect I might see ~24h±4 hours of relief from this dose. Still not so sure i'll get visuals, this might be a "functional" busting dose. Enough to be functional while still being effective against the attacks.

00:34 light headache returning but bearable kip2 level pain. Colors are begining to feel more vibrant. A brief moment if "stars" appears as I get up to let a pet back inside.

00:40 noticable shift in vibrancy awareness, things are definitely becoming brighter and more colorful, sudden goose bumps, mild shift in spacial awareness and realization that I wouldn't be safe to drive, probably a bit higher dosage than I'd want for a "functional" dose but approaching where I was hoping to be when taking this dose.

A few minutes later i begin to feel slightly overwhelmed by the shift from regular day to day pain to altered reality, I chose to lay down on the couch with my face in the pillows. Within minutes i'm in a very deep sleep. A confusing and semi lucid dream follows. This dream report my upset/offend some nexians so a word of warning,i'm not proud of my responses in these situations but I understand some of them. Maybe these sre things I should look at working on. Maybe they're just nonsensical scenarious my psilocybin addled brain has cobbled together in abrupt rem sleep, who knows.

I find myself in the burmese jungle a guest of a young burmese woman and her siblings all orphans of an active war. I've got a backpack full of sketch pads and art books, why i'm here makes no sense and I have no idea what I'm doing in burma. The young woman is maybe 17-19 preparing for higher education. Her dreams have been cut short when her parents have gone missing during the war, presumably rebels against the totalitarian army. She takes care of a preteen sister and a mentally disabled brother. At some point in talking she gets incredibly upset and runs off, her siblings come out of their hut, youngest brother with a messy marker drawing in hand. A stock figure drawing of the three of them surrounded by chaotic scribbles. I get this overwhelming sense that I have a really important flight to catch. I start walking down the uneven dirt road and find myself waking up

I roll around on the couch for a few minutes disoriented and overwhelmingly exhausted only to fall back asleep into a deep slumber.

I'm at some event in my home country, there are people everywhere. I'm lost, and confused but i find that I'm trying to make money to support my family. Some sort of ethical issue comes up as I familiarize myself with another family. An elder male is abusing a young mother in the family to the disapproval of the family. Being s bully and seemingly chasing and harassing this young mother over any miss step. I find myself confronting the man with a large club when I realize he's holding the infant in his hands. I'm lost and confused. Where the hell am I, who are these people? It doesn't matter, I don't tolerate that behaviour. I walk away again airing my grievances against the man. But now i'm working with a crew of laborers in yet another unfamiliar place ; still lost, still confused, unsure of what's going on. It's like I don't understand physics or common sense here. I try to keep up but I keep making repetitive mistakes that even I'm frustrated by. Someone on crew makes a disrespectful comment. I reply with a few vulgarities and tell them to take a hike " i'm busy here, help or take a piss " they take the advice and go for a walk somewhere near by, i make snother mistake seemingly confused by a piece of equipment I know fairly well and even i'm frustrated. I hear the man from before say something out of pocket which Is when I challenge him with something to the effect of "come show me or piss off if you're so upset about it!" Now i've come to realize i'm actively dreaming because nothing makes sense, its as if I don't have the slightest clue of what's going on. I feel defensive because i'm lost, confused, my sensibilities and ethics/morals are being challenged. My response to each situation feels lackluster, possibly wrong, but they're how the world has hardened me to be. I still dont understand the burmese family none of that makes sense. Taking a club to someone for abusing their family doesn't surprise me because my family was severely abused and mistreated by an older male for years and it didn't stop until I personally said I would ensure it stopped. So that at least has some social context, why it came up now though is still unclear. Working with the crew has some context because working with laborers is always a challange. Most of the time theres people on hard drugs, alcoholics, felons, not everyone gets along, you either guard your toes with your fists and chest or you risk being stomped on regularly. I have a new job voming up that i'm worried about. Its with a second chance employer who hires felons, disabled people, veterans, former law/fed enforcement individuals. Maybe i'm subconsciously preparing for the chaos.

Its all so weird.

I wake up at t- 05:00 groggy, disoriented. I'm on my couch wearing something different than what I went to sleep in. I must have changed at some point, but I feel comfortable and happy "to be home"

There's an incredibly faint hint that the headache persists but it's negligible, kip1 pain perhaps maybe 2 but much more manageable than it was on the way to the hospital this morning... 400 intergalactic credits pfffft.

6g tampanensis tea mixed into orange juice concentrate blended into a mix of frozen kiwi,mango, and pineapple was okay I guess. I'll probably take somewhere from 10-15g next time if I'm looking for visual activity.

Still not so sure why I fell asleep so hard.

At t: 05:27 i feel relatively back to baseline. I may continue my nap, im tired.
 
Id like to change the title of my original post but can't seem to find a way, if any one could give me some guidance on that I'd appreciate it. This has turned more into a trip journal than a post for a single trip at this point
 
Id like to change the title of my original post but can't seem to find a way, if any one could give me some guidance on that I'd appreciate it. This has turned more into a trip journal than a post for a single trip at this point
What would you like it to be? We can sort this for you if using the drop down menu at the top right of the thread doesn't work for some reason.
 
What would you like it to be? We can sort this for you if using the drop down menu at the top right of the thread doesn't work for some reason.
It's not showing on mobile for me for some reason. Something simple like "NeitherHere's trip journal" would be nice. Thank you for your help
 
It's not showing on mobile for me for some reason. Something simple like "NeitherHere's trip journal" would be nice. Thank you for your help
It may be down to a restriction on editing, to help prevent inconvenient holes developing in the forum. If that's definitely the title that you want, I'll change it to that upon receiving confirmation.
 
I would appreciate that. I didn't expect to use this thread as a personal trip journal but it makes a lot more sense than making a new thread for each and every trip. minimizes clutter in the forum :)

thank you for your help and explaining Transform
 
Welp, I just experienced my most profound DMT experience yet.

I decided to put a new copper mesh in my machine because the last one has become gunked up and less efficient than I'd like.

I decided to try and use my .01 accurate (.03 minimum) scale to use to see if i couldn't standardize a dose.

I put the 50g calibration weight on my scale until it actually read 50g, put the lid to my storage vessel. I dropped a large chunk of clear crystals embedded in a ball or oxidized red dmt wax onto the lid because it was the only crystal that would fall from the jar.

The scale read .03g, i didn't believe it so i reset everything snd reweighed 3x. Somehow it just felt excessively large. This ball was easily 3mm. It was noticably almost ~2x as much as I usually take.

So i split the dose in half, loaded it into the mittle of my freshly prepared copper mesh.

I took a few deep breathes and meditated a moment hoping and welcoming a good experience. When I was ready I quickly took a thick cloud of vapor and held it momentarily.

When i exhaled I felt reality shift abruptly.

This is when I knew I was about to go somewhere, "like it or not".

Rather than panic I walked to my trip nest. A comfortable place to lay down in comfort. At this time the abrupt shift in conciousness began to produce oev fractals. Everything eas covered in the same repeating colorful pattern that was slowly morphing and changing colors.

I began to feel anxious because I knew i had taken a larger dose than expected but I remembered to surrender. Panicking and fighting would get me nowhere "this will pass just relax"


I closed my eyes and found myself somewhere unexplainable. It was all so intense that there was never any chance i'd bring it all back with me but there were more fractals and i found myself in a room of some sort filled with cokorful chaos. I remember feeling as if a jester was present and "hearing/feeling" laughter almost telepathically. The chaos became too much for comfort so i opened my eyes and found the world around me had became almost cartoonish. I could see the real world but things had legitimately become cartoon in nature and how I percieved it but it wasnt everything, things were taking turns.

A decorative display of an animal on the wall became a cartoon image that I equated to a minecraft Animal , the entire wall was visibly different in a way I couldnt explain. The colors werent vibrant but a noticeable colorscheme was present as if i were within a childrens game.

A show about aliens and documentation of seeing sliens was on the adjacent wall via projector, about 3x5 meters. Slowly this became cartoonish as well. The fractal patterns came and went. The jester laughing disapeared quickly. As i opened and closed my eyes the visuals began to shift and change. What was animated became normal ans what was normal became animated.

I took a few deep breathes and it all stopped. Everything went back to normal.

And now my intense curiosity about changa has been exponentially enhanced. Is this the kind of thing I should expect from changa but longer duration? It would be nice to be able to actually work within the space here. But i wonder and worry I'll lose my ability to see and experience other worlds like my lrevious trips on the low doses I was using before. They were nowhere near as intense but they were clear and vivid with great spiritual meaning. This experience today seemingly had no spiritual meaning but definitely was something to behold in its own right.

What an absolutely odd experience 🤔🤔🤔
 
I'd like so much to try DMT ! It will come in time ... ;)

A trip journal seems what i need !
 
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